Posted on 09/27/2001 5:36:38 AM PDT by Stand Watch Listen
I hope this "logic" doesn't prevail.
I'm out of practice with my "seig heils."
" Yes, the War on (Some) Drugs does all that and more." (MrLeRoy). . .
You read selectively, but whatever.
Can only add that it is clear, some people will continue to choose to 'enjoy'. . .just hope that with every inhale or snort. . .or needle, that they think of the 'war' YOU mention. . .and all those who participate in that war.
. . . because those who 'indulge'. . .share with the good, bad and ugly; share with each and every one, the 'fruits' of their labors. . . and the spilling of their blood. . .
. . .and by their choices, they share the responsibility as well.
. . .and by their choices, they share the responsibility as well.
There, now that's correct.
. . .hard to get anywhere when on the circular path of endless return.
You know, 'been here. . .done that'. . .but enjoy the view.
Become an addict, then.
You write as if you're well on your way.
If you expect a reply from a moderator, you must sign your complaint.
Thank you.
So, if I was growing my own pot, buying it from a neighbor or friend who does, then "I am a link"? Yawn. Try again.
As for legal vs. non. . .have you seen Whitney Houston lately? One talented, but totally wasted human being and Mother of small children. . .and not BECAUSE her drugs are illegal. . .
Whitney Houston is no different than crackman "Bob" who sits on the corner and asks you for change - they both made decisions to use mind-altering substances that they found out they could not handle. Its no different than those who become alcoholics, except that you cant have your life screwed up by the police because you were possessing alcohol. The point you miss is that drugs *are* illegal, and that has not stopped Whitney Houston or your average crack head or heroine addict from getting, wanting or using the drugs they want.
What the illegality has done, though, is harm the lives of peaceful, recreational users(generally pot, LSD or cocain users) who have never committed any crimes other than violating "edicts of government".
Our society/government does not punish possession of alcohol or even abuse of alcohol when it leads to exponentially more deaths than all "illegal" drugs combined. Yet, the mere possession of a bud from a plant(actually even stems or seeds) that grows wild throughout the world is so evil that one must go to jail. Possession of more than 20 grams is a felony meaning prison time. Enough plants, and you can get 30 to life. All for a damn plant. I dont just limit this to marijuana - possession of any amount of cocain is a felony, same with heroine and meth, I believe.
Howabout this: If you dont want to do drugs or alcohol, you dont do them. If I dont want to, I wont either. If you and I have kids, we have every right to teach them not to do harmful things. When they are 18, they are adults and make their own choices, no matter how much a parent may not like it. No more "stop drugs for the children". All children turn into adults. All adults can make their own choices. It is the parent's responsibility to teach their kids not to do drugs. Adults doing "drugs" is no different than adults drinking alcohol.
And thank you, Mr. Mackey.
"Um, drugs are bad..."
I think you're talking about anorexia, not drug use.
No, I am tallking about her long-time addiction to hard drugs.
Either she's taking a pro-anorexia drug, or you're lumping the ills of anorexia together with the problems of drug use.
Look at a recent photo of her. If you're suggesting that her current physique is due to drugs, and NOT anorexia, I fear you're poorly informed (as you are about where the drugs come from).
Ah, but it's not circular---it's an ascending spiral of growing awareness of this fact: the War on (Some) Drugs forcibly imposes on people no less harm than drug users voluntarily impose on themselves.
I HATE those 'edicts of government. . .really. ( Have thought about taking up smoking; the now barely legal smoking. . .just to make my anti-government statement. . .) but should the 'edict' change, then all those who have heretofore been frustrated can be happy.
I do feel sorry about those peaceful. . . recreational users, who mean no harm; who do not venture out, driving anyway; who have no children to show that flauting the law is rewarding. . .and can smoke/dope and earn a living; but they are not 'entitled to a drug induced heaven' either; and would bet that the 'harm' that has come into their lives in total; is small, compared to the 'harm done' and experienced by multitudes on our planet.
In the meantime, do we not have enough problems in our culture WITH alcohol? Why add, legal drug use/abuse?
But alcohol, I surely do enjoy; and all the more so, because it does not by necessity come with the garbage and associative 'karma' that goes with illegal drugs. Actually, do not consider the 'sixties' part of the 'karma' because. . .'who knew' anything?
Alcohol has been both alternatively, legal, illegal. . .legal; but hypocritically so, given that our western civilization is co-entwined with Judeo/Christian history; or just the opposite. . .but a history, from 'whence we came' - and our values - that had a cultural appreciation of 'alcohol'. (No reason to debate here, the origins of ancient or 'old medicants; the 'tonics' once enjoyed. . .or even original coca-cola); and while those ancient cultures had an appreciation of their 'drink'; they did not appreciate the 'drunkard'. Think we can reasonably accept, as well, those 'edicts' regarding individual actions that result from the over use/abuse of alcohol. . .particularly since the addition of five-lane highways and 'super cars'.
Believe we, as a society, can at the same time, and without the hypocritical, anti-alcohol 'Prohibition', say 'NO' to legalizing drugs if ONLY from a 'safety/protection' standpoint. . .Back to our highways and with consideration to our railways and skyways as well - we are surely, more easily alerted to someone who has suffered too much 'drink'. A human condition far more evident than dulled senses from a warm/happy high. . .
In any event, for the time being, if you really value and appreciate your freedom, why choose to feel 'less free'. . .feel the restrictions of where and how; feel threat of the law, should you come to attention?
Why choose to experience LESS freedom in your life or it's exact opposite by your indulging in those recreations that impose unacceptable infringements upon you.
But of course, it is your choice and you are still free to make it; you might just check to see how much real freedom you are allowing yourself. . . or depriving yourself of. . .to enjoy your choices.
You might consider the Freedom you risk as well.
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