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Maher mars 'Politically Incorrect'
Jewish World Review ^ | Sept. 26, 2001 | Jonah Goldberg

Posted on 09/26/2001 6:37:20 AM PDT by SJackson

BILL MAHER, host of ABC's "Politically Incorrect," is under attack. Sears and Federal Express pulled their sponsorships of the show. Viewers are angry. Several affiliates have dropped him. His show is teetering on the brink of cancellation, all because he said that the terrorists who attacked the World Trade Center weren't cowards. Rather, he said, "We have been the cowards lobbing cruise missiles from 2,000 miles away. That's cowardly."

Now, I'm torn. On the one hand, Maher is not entirely wrong, though his comments were poorly timed and mean-spirited. The Clinton policy of risk-free symbolic strikes against Saddam Hussein and Osama bin Laden was hardly gutsy.

On the other hand, "Politically Incorrect" deserves to be canceled more than any show not currently on the WB. Maher, his producers and fans have long contended that the show makes a valuable contribution by inviting apathetic Americans into the "national conversation." Of course, it's a mystery to me why any American who can't be bothered to pay attention to politics unless Pamela Anderson is discussing it should be welcome in that conversation.

I'm embarrassed to admit I've been on "Politically Incorrect" a few times but will never again. Still, I think I've identified the two basic problems with the show: the concept and the host.

"Politically Incorrect" is one of the last icons of the 1990s conflation of celebrity and politics: George magazine, "Murphy Brown," "policy summits" at the White House for the likes of Billy Crystal and Richard Dreyfuss, "serious" speeches by Barbra Streisand.

The result of this phenomenon was a profoundly cynical approach to important questions. It said that fame, as opposed to serious work, intelligence or experience, was the best criterion for determining who has a legitimate opinion.

For example, in every issue of George, the editors asked a Hollywood star what they would do if they were president. The first thing Melanie Griffith would do is pass a law saying "no one should make more than $1 billion a year." Such stuff may offer valuable insight into how Melanie Griffith thinks - on the odd chance someone finds value in such things - but in a discussion of public policy, this is as helpful as cricket-chirping.

Similarly, the idea behind "Politically Incorrect" is to get a bunch of pretty people together and have them argue with politicians and other political professionals (journalists, activists etc.).

Of course, the real aim of the show is to make fun of conservatives while sounding "politically incorrect." As Maher told Playboy in 1997, "Ninety percent of show-business people are nutty liberals." So the liberal seats are filled with lefty comedians, movie stars and rappers. This leaves the conservative seats to mockable right-wingers. Worse, not only does the audience root for the celebrities, but the host and producers do too.

Which gets us to the second problem with the show. Bill Maher is anything but an impartial host. He sucks up to Hollywood liberals because A) he needs to get them back on the show, B) he usually agrees with them, and C) they tend to be wildly ignorant.

Maher calls himself a libertarian, but the fact is he's a libertine socialist; he favors guilt-free promiscuity and legal drugs, but everything else is eligible for a government takeover. Remember: Libertarians are for as little government as possible, particularly in the economic and regulatory realm. Maher supported Ralph Nader for president and has said he favors a government takeover of the electoral system. To call himself a libertarian is like a Vishnu worshipper calling himself Catholic.

But that's Maher's approach to everything: getting hung up on what his guests deride as mere "labels" or "details" is just stupid in a world where the opinions of supermodels matter a great deal.

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1 posted on 09/26/2001 6:37:20 AM PDT by SJackson
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To: SJackson
Bill Maher is another casuality of the Clinton adminstration.
2 posted on 09/26/2001 6:43:08 AM PDT by Republican Babe
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To: SJackson
This article is great. I sent an email to ABC yesterday saying pretty much the same thing in far fewer words. If Bill Maher gets replaced as host I might be able to bear watching the show again. (probably not)
3 posted on 09/26/2001 6:44:53 AM PDT by imaxmatt
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To: imaxmatt
Personally speaking, before watching anything on ABC again, I'd rather tune up to the high numbered channels in my cable system and watch infomercials all night long. Thank God for FNC.
4 posted on 09/26/2001 6:47:14 AM PDT by Nuke'm Glowing
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To: SJackson
Moderates and closet conservatives wake up and unite! It sounds like our country may be finally recognizing that the talk show hosts of today are flaming socialists, communists, pacifists and/or plain liberals.
5 posted on 09/26/2001 6:49:53 AM PDT by Aztech
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To: SJackson
Maher is not funny, nor is his show. I've watched a few times, didn't like it. It's OK with me if they take it off the air.

I would, however, probably change my mind if Pam Anderson were on more often.

Hey!! what a good idea, keep the show except with Pam as host instead of Bill!!

Any other host suggestions?

6 posted on 09/26/2001 6:53:32 AM PDT by WhiteGuy
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To: SJackson
. His show is teetering on the brink of cancellation, all because he said that the terrorists who attacked the World Trade Center weren't cowards. Rather, he said, "We have been the cowards lobbing cruise missiles from 2,000 miles away. That's cowardly."

My heart bleeds for Maher ... NOT! The fruitcake deserves to have his show yanked. As far as Jonah Goldberg, I believe he has the quote wrong. Maher didn't say "WE" in the "We have been the ..." In Maher's original quote, the implication was clear that the MILITARY PILOTS/TECHNICIANS who launch the missiles from afar are cowards.

7 posted on 09/26/2001 6:56:19 AM PDT by VoodooEconomist
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To: SJackson
I had to give up watching "Politically Incorrect" some time ago because every time I heard or saw Bill Maher, I would get this almost uncontrollable urge to slap him silly. I (once again) agree with Jonah Goldberg's take. He is indeed a "libertine-socialist" but not totally incorrect in his branding as "cowardice" the practice of lobbing cruise-missiles at an unseen enemy from over the horizon.This (and bombing from 15,000 feet were but two examples of "courage" and "resolve" demonstrated by our former President???
8 posted on 09/26/2001 6:59:49 AM PDT by bandleader (theriddler01@msn.com)
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To: WhiteGuy
Maher is not funny, nor is his show. I've watched a few times, didn't like it. It's OK with me if they take it off the air.

I would, however, probably change my mind if Pam Anderson were on more often.


9 posted on 09/26/2001 7:05:00 AM PDT by Diogenesis
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To: SJackson
It's a strange thing -- when the show first started on Comedy Central, it was lighthearted -- even the set was "light" - brighter colors, brightly lit. There was real balance in the show and it was genuinely, sometimes fall-off-the-sofa-laughing funny. The only "down" moment I caught was when Al Franken, in a moment of what appeared to be real hostility, hit Arianna Huffington very, very hard with a pillow in a "strange bedfellows" skit. (He apologized to her later. Maybe he was frustrated at the balance the show had then -- can't have conservatives really get equal time now can you?)

The show was so good I wrote an e-mail complimenting them, and received a nice reply thanking me for the comments. Shortly after came the announcement of the move to ABC.

And once the move came, it was clear things had changed right from the start. The set was darker, the atmosphere more rigid and formal, as if suddenly everyone regarded it more serious and important. The freewheeling sense of fun that was there on Comedy Central was gone. And so was the balance. The "3 liberals (4, counting Maher) against 1 moderate" panel was born. And Maher's attitude changed a lot. He seemed to affect an attitude of importance, where he was more a likeable guy on Comedy Central.

I only watched a few episodes on ABC -- that's all I could stand. Whatever the show had on Comedy Central was gone, and what was left was hard to endure.

It is interesting that with the long list of hideous things that Maher has said since moving to ABC, all were overlooked by the powers that be until now. Could it be it's because all the other venomous things he said were aimed at the right, and this one time Clinton was the actual target? What else would explain the sudden mood of hyperliberal ABC to consider dumping Maher?

Whatever the outcome, it was kind of sad to see what once was such an entertaining show become something of a dark monster. Too bad.

10 posted on 09/26/2001 7:08:07 AM PDT by KillerWabbit
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To: SJackson
Bill Maher is one of the people on TV who makes the HOME SHOPPING CHANNEL attractive!
11 posted on 09/26/2001 7:08:55 AM PDT by leprechaun9
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To: WhiteGuy
"Hey!! what a good idea, keep the show except with Pam as host instead of Bill!!"

PI has never been a show intended to draw serious political aficionados but only those who think with their groins. It is a disgusting excuse for "entertainment."

Pamela Anderson, as host, would only seek to further that which fills her empty blond head, her beloved PETA. If that's what you want, then go for it. As for me, I would rather not waste my time submitting my mind to that mush.

12 posted on 09/26/2001 7:23:31 AM PDT by A2J
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To: SJackson
First they need to change the name of the show. This is the most Politically Correct show on TV.
13 posted on 09/26/2001 7:59:49 AM PDT by Texas Mom
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To: WhiteGuy
Norm MacDonald.
14 posted on 09/26/2001 8:08:20 AM PDT by Rocko
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To: Republican Babe
Bill Maher is another casuality of the Clinton adminstration.

No, its just a leftover, and like all leftovers they must be trashed before they stink up the fridge.

15 posted on 09/26/2001 8:13:36 AM PDT by JoeSixPack1
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To: SJackson
On the other hand, "Politically Incorrect" deserves to be canceled more than any show not currently on the WB.

HA! This guy is a hoot....

16 posted on 09/26/2001 8:23:05 AM PDT by Paradox
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To: SJackson
Good find. H'es wrong here though:

This leaves the conservative seats to mockable right-wingers.

What "seats"? 99% of the time, there's only one conservative. The libs are still out numbered.

Don't stop now, folks:

Update #2 -Politically Incorrect Advertisers Contact List

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Mervyn's Pulls Ads From 'Politically Incorrect'

17 posted on 09/26/2001 8:58:55 AM PDT by quimby
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To: SJackson
...The truth is that "Politically Incorrect" lasted longer than it deserved. And, in the wake of the Sept. 11 murders, Maher's style of cynical mocking, sophomoric sex-talk and knee-jerk America-bashing was destined to die on the vine no matter what, because it's inappropriate, dated and boring just like the title of the show. Does he really deserve to be canned because of this specific remark? Probably not, but why get caught up in the details?

Like I posted when this whole flap was being debated here on FreeRepublic, Maher is a has-been. He's no longer cool. His mean-spirited malicious jabs (like wishing Kathleen Harris' murder, calling Clinton's women 'pieces of tail' and lying sluts, calling Bush a 'lying sack of $hit') at conservatives brought this on him. Not just his stupid, thoughtless remarks about the hijacker-murderers not being cowards. Duh. The opposite of coward is hero. Does that make the terrorist-murderers' act heroic? Maher was aligning himself with those stupid Palestinians and other Muslim nutcases. It sure sounded like that to me.

As for the Clinton Administration's cowardly bombing of a couple of empty camps and an aspirin factory on the eve of Monica Lewinsky's testimony to the grand jury, Maher refuses to admit that his horney, cowardly, women-degrading hero, Bubba gave the final order without congressional approval. Like his hero who he fails to even name as Commander-in-Chief at that time, Maher tried to pin the blame of the equivalent "sending a 2 million dollar missle into a 10 dollar tent and hitting a camel in the butt" on the Republican-controlled Congress. I am glad that Maher is getting what he deserves. He is a women-degrading, intolerant creep. His humor is out. I find sweet justice in that. There's nothing a Hollywood-type finds more distressing than to discover that he is no longer hip or in.

18 posted on 09/26/2001 9:08:35 AM PDT by demnomo
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To: quimby
Now, you are a true warrior in this fight. What fight? The cultural war that Charlton Heston once described. Keep up your good work. No amount of Arianna (or anyone like her) is going to convince me that Maher is a victim of free speech. The guy crossed the line so many times, that he deserves all that he gets. Yeah, he's got a right to say stupid things. That doesn't mean that we have to listen or support his show and sponsors out of some sort of twisted patriotism.

Cheers.

19 posted on 09/26/2001 9:14:40 AM PDT by demnomo
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To: demnomo
Now, you are a true warrior in this fight

As are you, my friend. Lets take the red pill:

See link:

Red Pill / Blue Pill

20 posted on 09/26/2001 9:36:01 AM PDT by quimby
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