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Supreme Court to Decide School Voucher Issue
Yahoo! News ^ | 25 Sep 01 | James Vicini

Posted on 09/25/2001 9:36:37 AM PDT by Alissa

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The U.S. Supreme Court said on Tuesday it will decide whether vouchers, a program endorsed by President Bush that uses tax dollars to pay student tuition at religious schools, are constitutional.

The justices, getting an early start on their new term that begins next Monday, agreed to review a U.S. appeals court ruling that struck down an experimental private school voucher program in Cleveland on the grounds it violated constitutional church-state separation.

The high court accepted the recommendation of the Bush administration to resolve once and for all whether such programs were a permissible way to expand educational choices for children enrolled in failing public schools.

``This is probably the most important church-state case in the last half-century,'' said Barry Lynn of the group Americans United for Separation of Church and State. ``It will be a historic showdown over government funding of religion.''

Voucher supporters agreed on the case's significance.

``This is the most important educational opportunity case since Brown v. Board of Education,'' Clint Bolick of the group Institute for Justice said, referring to the landmark 1954 ruling that ended school segregation.

The Cleveland program has allowed some 4,000 students from mostly low-income families to receive tuition vouchers of up to $2,500 apiece to attend other private or public schools if their parents decided local schools did not meet their needs.

The appeals court struck down the program because it used tax money to pay student tuition for schools with a religious affiliation, promoting religious education.

CASE MAY HAVE SWEEPING NATIONAL CONSEQUENCES

The Supreme Court will hear arguments in the closely watched case early next year, with a decision due by the end of June. If the court upholds the Cleveland program, it would have sweeping national consequences for education policy.

The Supreme Court, with a 5-4 conservative majority, has handed down a string of recent rulings that lowered the wall of church-state separation by allowing some state involvement with religious schools. But it has never decided the voucher issue.

Supporters of vouchers maintained they promote competition in education and force public schools to improve while opponents argued they threaten the fiscal integrity of the nation's public school system.

School vouchers were a centerpiece of Bush's education platform during his presidential campaign.

The Ohio Pilot Project Scholarship program started in 1995 and covered kindergarten through eighth grade. The only other larger voucher program involving religious schools was in Milwaukee.

Solicitor General Theodore Olson, the Bush administration's top courtroom lawyer, said the Ohio program ``distributes educational aid on neutral terms ... without regard to religion.''

He said private choice helped ensure that the government was not seen as endorsing religion.

In one appeal to the Supreme Court, Ohio Attorney General Betty Montgomery said the case presented ``a fundamental constitutional issue of profound importance to education policy in the United States.'' Alabama, Delaware, Mississippi, Nebraska and South Carolina all supported the appeal.

Private schools in Cleveland and five Cleveland families participating in the program also filed appeals.

Opponents of the program, including the American Civil Liberties Union, argued the appeals should be rejected.

They said the appeals court in its ruling properly applied a 1973 Supreme Court ruling that struck down a private school tuition payment program.


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To: afuturegovernor
refered to Scalia, Thomas, and Rehnquist as "extreme conservatives", to O'Conner and Kennedy as "conservatives", and Breyer, Scouter, Stevens, and Ginsburg as "moderates."

Government school, like government journalism, is based on the premise of "objective truth" which is actually an illegitimate "Establishment." The First Amendment is deeply suspicious of "objective truth."

Why Broadcast Journalism is Unnecessary and Illegitimate.

41 posted on 09/25/2001 12:27:52 PM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion
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To: afuturegovernor
I think I once had a book that called Souter a conservative. When people say there are no liberals on the court, they're probably just upset that there are no liberals who have any major influence.
42 posted on 09/25/2001 12:37:12 PM PDT by tenderstone jr.
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To: 1Old Pro
I thought lower courst already ruled this constitutional. If so, SCOTUS will support an uphold.

Wrong - Both lower courts that have considered this particular case have both struck down vouchers as being against the Establishment Clause

43 posted on 09/25/2001 12:57:06 PM PDT by gdani
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To: Plan B
If the public schools were actually providing a good education, this would be a valid point.

The police and fire departments in my city are both horrible and I never use them. I'm thinking of trying to withdraw my tax money from them too.

44 posted on 09/25/2001 12:59:36 PM PDT by gdani
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To: gdani
A product of flooding the federal court system and nothing more. Now, the Supremes will have their say. The key is the children and their families have the choice to attend, and as a result, it is their choice as to whether the gov. money goes to a public vs. private school. It's not the gov. insisting that the money only go to private schools. Judgment reversed by SCOTUS. Pray for the children in Milwaukee who has reaped the benefits so far. I've seen first-hand how these programs not only benefit the children involved directly, but those involved indirectly through improved public school instruction as a result of competition. Nothing good will come from striking these programs down.
45 posted on 09/25/2001 1:14:55 PM PDT by Kryptonite
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To: annalex
He is an ass to pay top dollar for a house in a great school district, just to send his kids to private schools.
But, that is his choice.
46 posted on 09/25/2001 1:27:46 PM PDT by Moleman
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To: ChaseR
5-4 against. O'Connor is not a Conservative. A plain reading of the Constitution should be all that is necessary. If that cannot be understood, then they shouldn't be on the court - any court.
47 posted on 09/25/2001 1:30:26 PM PDT by 4CJ
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To: dead
You paid that premium of your own free will. It is not the business of government to insure your investment.
I agree with you comments, it is no business of the government to insure individuals investment in real-estate.
I simply stated that the area the we purchased our home has the top rated schools in the state and therefore housing prices are higher.
(rant)If people want to send their kids to private schools by all means let them, but don't ask me to pay for it, I already pay for one failing schools system.
(/rant) Think about this, do you really want the government involved with, and contaminating, the private school sector?
48 posted on 09/25/2001 1:39:37 PM PDT by Moleman
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To: Uncle Sham
Whichever way the court decides, it will mean the end of PUBLIC education.

sure that it won't be the end of PRIVATE education??

Once they send gov't checks to a private school they will begin to issue new "standards". Slippery slope, ask Grove City College, who had to submit to federal rules on all sorts of stuff, even though the school took no federal aid, just their students received federal student loans. since then they are one of I think 3 schools in the country that take no federal aid nor do their students!!!

49 posted on 09/25/2001 1:48:16 PM PDT by Paleo-Con
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To: Still Thinking
I have to agree - it's the power to control the indoctination of children. Once the sheeple understand that educational competition reduces costs and increases efficiency (or learning in this case), then the NEA and shills (Jackson, Sharpton, the Dims et al) lose their stranglehold of the sheeples lives, and along with it, the money.

FWIW, we put our children in a Christian school this year, I don't like having to pay twice for it, and I could spend the money on other unimportant things (like food/clothing/shelter). It's probably one of the best decisions we ever made. And in this case, I think it's unConstitutional that my children must suffer through a secular lack of education.

50 posted on 09/25/2001 1:52:28 PM PDT by 4CJ
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To: Paleo-Con
It hasn't meant that in Maine and Vermont -- states with 200+ years of experience in the field.
51 posted on 09/25/2001 2:05:09 PM PDT by imberedux
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To: Alissa
I agree. Education is a public good. The question is wether the government should be the only delivery system for that public good. Medicaid uses vouchers, food stamps are vouchers and frankly the poor here in the USA get better food and medical services than anywhere in the world.
52 posted on 09/25/2001 2:08:26 PM PDT by imberedux
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To: Moleman
that is his choice.

This is where he has no choice under the present system: he pays in part for your kid in taxes, and he pays in full for his kid in tuition. You pay for your kid (in the same part as him) in taxes. Everything else is the same: you both paid top dollar for the house and you both will get top dollar when you sell. You mobility is greater than his, because there are more public schools around than private schools. Most areas of the United States are not within a reasonable reach of a private school. So your sacrifice of moving to a good school district does not compare to his sacrifice of paying twice when you pay once and being tied to one private school that suits his need.

53 posted on 09/25/2001 2:12:55 PM PDT by annalex
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To: VRW Conspirator
Weren't there thousands of GI's who took money from the Fed Gov to go to school, religious or not, after WW2 - otherwise known as The GI Bill?

It goes further than that Conspirator, the Federal Government pays ROTC scholarships directly to Jesuit schools to educate its military officers - Marquette, Notre Dame, Penn, Villanova to name a few. This is the government itself choosing specific religious schools to perform a service it wants/needs.

Funny how this is not a problem unless NEA jobs are put at risk...

subgator

54 posted on 09/25/2001 2:20:55 PM PDT by subgator
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To: freedomcrusader
Arizona has credits as well. Vermont and Maine have hundreds of years experience in choice. It works.
55 posted on 09/25/2001 2:31:09 PM PDT by imberedux
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To: subgator
Religous schools get tax money in Milwaukee. It has improved the public schools to the point that 100% of their elected school board supports choice in education now.
56 posted on 09/25/2001 2:33:36 PM PDT by imberedux
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To: 4ConservativeJustices
School vouchers in no way, shape or form violate the 1st Amendment or the bogus "wall of separation". And any SCOTUS Justice that decides differently doesn't understand the Constitution, nor upholds their oath to defend the Constitution from attack (even from an ignorant Justice.)

Where did you receive you education in Constitutional Law?

58 posted on 09/25/2001 5:19:00 PM PDT by FreeLibertarian
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To: Alissa
If they veto it, then they'd better issue refunds to folks who refuse public schools. There is no logical reason why parents of school age should subsidize what isn't acceptable for their own schools. I also wouldn't mind if those whithout children don't pay any taxes for it. They are getting NO return what so ever.
59 posted on 09/25/2001 5:23:12 PM PDT by nmh
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To: Paleo-Con
"Once they send gov't checks to a private school they will begin to issue new "standards". "

"Gov't checks" will be found to be unconstitutional if applied to funding schools of any sort not related to our national defense. This means that ALL schools not covered under our constitutional provision for self defense will become "private". No law could ever eliminate "private" schools, but obeying the law of the constitution could possibly eliminate government-funded "public" schools.

60 posted on 09/25/2001 8:56:26 PM PDT by Uncle Sham
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