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You're hanging with the pro-fascism crowd in your quest. I realize the need to pull together, but do you understand their goals? Their ultimate motives? I think you do but are flushing it in the name of patriotism. I've always been an American patriot but I see little need to ally with my natural enemies even in times of war.

When they turn on you, don't cry about it. You were warned.

I understand their goals perfectly well. Yes, you are right. I'm flushing my concerns for now, since there's no other choice. Had you saw the Pentagon burning, like I did, and came home to an apartment smelling like smoke, I think you'd have a different view.

I feel there's no other option. We must win the war, and I'm willing to chuck aside my concerns to a large degree in order to do so. It's in the country's best interest. I need to be alive to exercise what rights I have.

I fail to see why you don't understand that, and the ramifications of this attack. Hell, a crop duster could fly any day over your home, and spray all of you in southern Virginia with anthrax.

I understand and deeply respect your concerns. I see no other choice.

I think you make a good point Harry. My opinion is that this is war and I am anxiously awaiting the kicking of major terrorist ass. However, I am prepared to give up the same amount of civil liberties now as I was willing to give up under the Clinton administration which is, ZERO.

Whatever we are prepared to fork over now and whatever powers we are prepared to give the government now, we are giving not just to the current administration, but every future administration of this country. And I think that many people would not be so willing to toss out their rights out the window if it were Gore/Lieberman leading the USA.

This is a time to be cautious in our anger. Look at the numerous idiotic measures being taken at the airports as result of the attack. Everyone has to use a "spork" at the airport concessesion stand because of these attacks, even though no one tried to hijack a plane with the plastic knife they use to spread jelly on their Egg McMuffin while waiting to board a plane. No one is allowed to park at LAX, they have to park outside the airport and take a cab to get to departures. Of course, how many bin Laden associates were cab drivers in Boston? Good thing we let the cabs drive right up to the doors but not the airline passengers. These gestures may make people feel "safe" but they are empty and ultimately useless.

I see no reason that citizens have to start throwing out their rights because of these events. Once you give them up, you don't get them back.