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To: Scythian
Scythian:

I'm not an expert on Biblical end-time events, nor do I think Jesus required that of us. A brief reading of the scripture will leave you exactly the question you are asking. (Where is America in prophecy?) There are only 2 existing theories that hold any weight as far as I've read.

One is that WE are mystery Babylon/Beast etc.. and the other is we either don't exist as a nation or that we are irrelevant.

Now based on the first assumption, that WE are the beast...etc., you have to understand that one of the requirements is 'being drunk with the blood of the saints'. That's not US. I repeat: America is NOT drunk with the blood of the saints. We are a nation of the opposite.

(Now for those of you lurking and saying, "oh yeah, what about abortion...?" Stop it. There is no biblical evidence that puts forth evidence that EVERY aborted child goes to heaven. Try and find it- it's not there (key term here is: EVERY). BESIDES the fact that CHINA is using abortion at a MUCH greater rate than we are. Who is MORE guilty of abortion USA or China? Abortion is not a relevant subject in this case- we don't CELEBRATE it and CHEER for it....)

So that leaves but one other theory: We are gone or irrelevant. So yes, that's "scary". It frightens me also. Jesus sweat BLOOD the night before he was crucified...talk about being ANXIOUS! So don't let people tell you that being anxious is not biblical. PAUL WORRIED about his brethren in many of his letters. IT's OK. Phillipians 4:6,7 recognizes anxiety and offers a relief from it. It does not deny it will come, it offers a SOLUTION.

The Bible recognizes that we, as Christians will SEE danger and death. The Psalmest in #23 was not oblivious to the 'valley of the shadow of death', he knew EXACTLY where he was.

So where does this leave us, as christians? I don't know. I believe the 'stage' is being set for the end. My gut feeling,(that's all: just a gut feeling-not prophecy), is that our President is aware of this also. IF he IS, as he claims, born-again, (and I believe he is..), then HE will have about the same amount of information that you and I have. I would not want to be in his shoes.

With all this in mind, please comfort yourself with this: God KNOWS that you don't know what's going on. As he sets the stage, he is aware of your ignorance...and mine also. He PLANNED it that way. ON PURPOSE. I have a few theories on why it's this way....but they aren't relevant here. Just realize that Hebrews defines faith clearly as 'the substance of things hoped for and evidence things not seen'. If you 'knew' exactly what He was doing, and could 'see' it, it's not faith anymore, is it?

Scythian, you will read 'prophecy experts' and they will contradict one another. The BEST ones are those who are willing to step up to the plate, right now, and state that they are clueless as to what's being played out. If they were honest with you. But most 'experts' would have TOO MUCH to lose by saying that, and should be dismissed. God is not a respector of persons, and places very little on things that are 'greatly esteemed among men.' As CHILDREN we approach Him. Not as His advisor.

It's GOOD to talk about these things, it's GOOD to read the Bible, and gain understanding of these times. It's GOOD to feel helpless (2 tim. 3:12, 1st Corith 2:1-16...for there is the STRENGTH of God. It's GOOD to know what the Bible says. (2 Thess. 2). Dwell on these, and Phil. 4:6,7 have their effect, as promised.

115 posted on 09/24/2001 1:34:24 PM PDT by invoman
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To: invoman
Thankyou very much, people have mis-interpreted what I said, I'm not whining, I just know the reality of the situation, we are easy pickings when it comes to terrorism, the simplicity of biological attack cannot be overlooked, Newsmax has a story where are President spoke at a prayer vigil about a future attack of grave purportions, he seemed worried, I am worried, and for all you tough guys who think "it'll work out" to me you seem to be almost irrationally positive.

Thanks for those that have offered encouragement, I'm going to re-read this thread several times.
125 posted on 09/24/2001 2:41:42 PM PDT by Scythian
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To: invoman
One is that WE are mystery Babylon/Beast etc.. and the other is we either don't exist as a nation or that we are irrelevant.

And 3) America and Britain are Israel. Go back and read Genesis and you'll see the when Jacob Israel was on his deathbed prophesying to the 13 tribes, he gave Ephraim (a multitude of nations) and Manasseh (a great nation) his name, the name of "Israel"! Judah is not Israel. Ephraim (the U.K.) and Manasseh (the U.S.) are Israel!

187 posted on 09/25/2001 8:43:44 AM PDT by #3Fan
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