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>I am getting sick of hearing this broken record.What you people do not seem to understand, is that in war time you have to have a different mindset if you want to be victorious

What happens when the war is over, we've fought the good fight, and the increased laws/government powers are not taken off the books?

Say the war is over, say somebody gets into office, democrat or whatever, they decide that rather than go back to the way things were, they can perhaps use some of those new laws/powers to help themselves.

A good analogy would be re-districting, it's a mild tool that the parties use against each other every 10 years (and it is used against each other). Think about a party inheriting some laws and powers that are to deal with terrorists, and they get to define what terrorists are. They could use that against the other party. All of the sudden the playing field changes. FR might be considered a hotbed of radicals and extremists and could be banned (okay I'm stretching, but you know what I mean)

My post was not directed towards impeading our freedoms, it was directed toward the statements of so many that we should just pull out of the middle east all together and do nothing.

There should be no new restrictions of our liberties in this country.

Profiling? How is that a restriction of anyones liberty if it simply keeping a close watch on you? as long as you are not assailed, or put in jail then nothing has been restricted.

Having to go through a longer wait at the airport? Give me a break, the airlines are private industries if they did not want tougher standards they would fight them. the fact is they want these standards. Are you saying a private company does not have the right to set whatever standards they want? Of course they do, and if you don't like it you have the right not to fly.

What I was getting at in my earlier post was that I am tired of hearing the jargon of how we shouldn't strike back. If we do not these attacks will continue, even if we pulled completley out of the middle east they would continue. It isn't about support with Isreal, it isn't simply about Iraq. It's about our way of life. We have freedom and wealth, and these radicals despise us because of it. We are an offense to their religious beliefs simply by existing. The only way to get them to stop without force is to give in to their demands, to change our way of life, to adopt their rules and culture. Do that and you will realy see a restriction on freedoms. www.wordsoftruth.8m.com