Pope in dramatic appeal to avert war

Yahoo News (Reuters) ^ | 9-23-01 | Philip Pullella

[A. Pole]

Is this the same Pope who visited Poland during the Soviet rule? The same Pope that helped bring about the fall of the evil empire? Surely not!

This is unlike him, but I suppose even the best of us suffer from periodic lapses in mental capacity.

Communism lost power in Poland peacefully, without war or bloodshed. Exactly as the present Pope wanted and encouraged this to happen. I do not agree in number of issues with the Pope but I assure he is still very capable person (much more than most of politicians)

[LaBelleDameSansMerci]

'...I agree. The dude who tried to off that dress wearing sissy 20 odd years ago is a freedom fighter, IMO...."

Strange that il papanever referred to his attacker as a "terrorist". Perhaps some men are more easily terrified than others....

[Senator Pardek]

Yeah - he probably held a prayer service for his alleged "soul".

I guess "El Papa" will have his docket filled once the savages in the Mid East meet their just fate.

He should go back to screaming against the use of rubbers to make him (and his mysticism) relevant again.

[Conservative til I die]

But the important main thing is, we don't have "Conservative" hanging around here making remarks about "Cletus," do we?

You rang, Cletus?

PS-We don't debate creationism because its stupid and nonsensical.

[Conservative til I die]

But the modern church of Rome in no way "owns" the Bible. They are not very close in doctrine or practice to what the church was at that time so their opinion, corrupted as it is by so many centuries of self-serving alteration and doctrinal interpretation, is more than a little suspect. One needn't be too familiar with translation and doctrinal issues to observe this simple fact.

I love it! People here just make unmitigated and pretty severe claims, and poof! that's it! No proof, no backup, no research, no clarification.

Whatever.

[Conservative til I die]

What a bunch of trash. Your theological rantings have about as much scholarly value and credibility as an article in Watchtower magazine.

[Conservative til I die]

Troll.

[peabers]

I'm starting to remember why I left the Catholic Church 20 years ago. I'd forgotten--actually thought about going back. Not anymore.

It's your soul. Besides, there's enough swinging-gate Catholics as it is.

[Iowegian]

Your theological rantings have about as much scholarly value and credibility as an article in Watchtower magazine.

Or yours and "Catholic Answers".

[Iowegian]

Don't forget there are a lot of Cletus's who live in the South in trailer parks and go to mass every week (they're Catholic).

[esther2]

I'm not worried about my soul. I'm a very involved member of a Protestant church, and much closer to God than ever before.

I also don't tell people that they're going to hell if they don't worship exactly the way I do because I'm aware of my imperfection and my finiteness, as opposed to God's perfect judgment.

[conservonator]

I'll wager this is the most ignored post on this thread...

[dignan3]

I have my own relationship with God, I do not need an intermiediary

So I guess that you have no need for Jesus then.

He only preaches to good countries and expects us to do the "can't we all get along/" thing.

Please visit the list of countries the Pope has visited and throw away your ignorance.

He should talk to Sudan, Syria, and all those that enslave and destroy humanity, not us.

He's already way ahead of you. He went to Sudan in 1993 and Syria in 2001.

Pray for the Vicar of Christ, the 264^th successor to St. Peter, John Paul II

[AmericanCheeseFood]

Yes, as a matter of fact my "preaching" as you call it does link up with the Bible.

The prayer is a sinners prayer, for repentence of sin and acceptence of Jesus which is needed for salvation .

I don't NEED the pope, in fact I think the pope is a good man, but not a leader of all . The true leader would be Jesus . I have a pastor, I have a relationship with Christ .

How about you?

Cheese .

[AmericanCheeseFood]

I'll make it simple for you .

Christ resides in me . I teach salvation as instructed to in the Bible . I will not lighten the message for anyone .

Religion as it is now adays is crap,unBiblical, luke warm, God puke and lead, founded by men and women who might as well be dogs which lap up their own vomit . Pure religion is hard to come buy, for one has to seek a place that teaches the whole Bible without adding things to it or preaching doctrins which go against Jesus .

Cheese .

(Jeremiah 7:18|Jer 44)

[HiTech RedNeck]

On arrival in Kazakhstan on Saturday, Pope John Paul said all controversies between nations must be resolved by negotiations and dialogue, not force of arms.

Even though definitely non-Catholic I see nothing wrong with prayers for peace and that religion not be used as a warmongering tool. We are blameless in the second, it's the Moslem fanatics who are using their religion as a warmongering tool. But GOSH I hope this last doozie is an out-of-context statement. Does he see a world of unarmed, Kumbaya nations?!? He wants the USA to volunteer to be the sheep in a world of wolves?!?

[wideawake]

Read my post 185, doc. It helps to listen to what someone actually says, not the carefully-edited Yahoo News version of what they said.

[George W. Bush]

I love it! People here just make unmitigated and pretty severe claims, and poof! that's it! No proof, no backup, no research, no clarification. Whatever. I had thought such a point so obvious that it scarcely even needed to be pointed out. Had the church of Rome never strayed further from the Bible than it had when the New Testament canon was established and faithfully and consistently practiced that, the Reformation would never have occurred. And there would be no Orthodox church either.

When the church of Rome became the state church of the Roman empire, it eventually became very corrupt as it wielded considerable secular power, having inherited the role of state religion from the empire which was to last until the Reformation and later. When the Reformation did occur, it was a repudiation of the corruption that Rome had become. It was no new phenomenon. Cries for the reform of the church of Rome from top to bottom were issued for over five hundred years before the break finally occurred.

Rome had plenty of warning. They refused to listen or to take action. The Reformation did not succeed in reforming Rome before Rome forced them to form Protestant churches permanently. However, Rome did reform some of its most corrupt practices later. Modern adherents of Rome did benefit from the Reformation as Rome did eventually end some of its most corrupt practices.