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Celebrities, Activists Say No To War [Major Barf Alert!]
CNS News ^ | 9/22/2001

Posted on 09/22/2001 11:49:03 AM PDT by Irma

Celebrities, Activists Say No To War

(CNSNews.com) - A coalition of Hollywood celebrities, left-wing groups and pacifists are calling on the United States and President Bush to suspend any planned military response to the terrorist attacks in New York and Washington, D.C.

As U.S. warships and planes head to the Middle East under Operation Infinite Justice, many who have traditionally preached non-violence are voicing concern about the use of military force.

Hollywood celebrities Harry Belafonte and Danny Glover have signed a petition entitled "Justice Not Vengeance," sponsored by the left-leaning think tank the Institute for Policy Studies (IPS).

In the petition, they state: "We foresee that a military response would not end the terror." The petition warns of "escalating violence" and "new acts of terrorism" if the U.S. uses military force.

Eric Leaver, the project associate at IPS, said Bush has been "war mongering" since the September 11 attacks. He particularly faults Bush for stating the fight is between "good and evil."

"That again comes from the vantage point of the U.S. being the good force in the world," said Leaver. "It's a very U.S. centric position. I am sure that many other countries in the rest of the world would take exception to that."

The Progressive Magazine, a long time voice for pacifist policies, has also joined the call for a peaceful response to the largest act of terrorism in U.S. history.

"Violence is not the answer. It will water the roots of terrorism," stated Matthew Rothschild, the editor of the magazine.

While he expresses sympathy for the victims and their families, Rothschild accused the media of "serving as a drum and bugle boy for the Pentagon."

"They have quickly suspended all the veneer of objectivity ... and they have put on their red, white and blue and are cheering America into war," he argued.

Alternative Solutions Proposed

Leaver of IPS believes that if the U.S. does undertake military action, it should only be done with the permission of an international body.

"I think we should look through ways of using the United Nations to try to help us to authorize a strike, if that's what's needed," he explained.

In Leaver's mind, the U.S. would be justified in using a "minimum" amount of force to capture international terrorist Osama bin Laden, the prime suspect in the terrorist attack, only if all diplomatic options failed.

Rothschild of The Progressive maintains that the US should only "apply maximum diplomatic pressure to extradite" bin Laden.

"If that fails, the international anti-crime agencies should try to find him and bring him to a court of justice. Interpol is designed to track down these people who are wanted in every country," he said.

Throwbacks to a Bygone Era

Frank Gaffney, a leading national security analyst and president of the Center For Security Policy, thinks much of this sentiment is "a throwback to the Vietnam War era and the sort of counterculture that hated America."

"It has been actively promoted by the left in our academic institutions and the media and many other influence-shaping operations around the country," Gaffney said.

He rejects the notion that the no distinctions can be made between the U.S. and terrorist actions. "To endorse it is to suggest that the U.S. was wrong in trying to terminate WWII without further loss of life, and that the U.S. was wrong to oppose totalitarian communism in places like Vietnam," Gaffney said.

As for economically aiding the Middle East to eliminate the root causes of terrorism, he said, "it's laughable that people think that improving the quality of life of the people would make any difference in what the leadership does, let alone end the problem that the leadership poses toward us."

Gaffney also dismissed calls for an international court to bring bin Laden to justice, saying, "This isn't just a criminal act. This is an act of war.

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First I must mention that I know that there are good people in Hollywood doing good things in the aftermath of this tragedy. They feel the same as we do and support the President 100%.

That being said......blast away!

1 posted on 09/22/2001 11:49:03 AM PDT by Irma
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To: Irma
First I must mention that I know that there are good people in Hollywood doing good things in the aftermath of this tragedy. They feel the same as we do and support the President 100%.

Other than Arnold Schwarzenegger and perhaps Bruce Willis, who?

2 posted on 09/22/2001 11:52:48 AM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: Irma
I'm still trying to understand why they think their celebrity-ness gives their opinions validity.
3 posted on 09/22/2001 11:53:14 AM PDT by Lizavetta
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To: Irma
"Violence is not the answer. It will water the roots of terrorism," stated Matthew Rothschild, the editor of the magazine.

Tell that to the 6,000+ people whose lives got snuffed out.

4 posted on 09/22/2001 11:54:45 AM PDT by ServesURight
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Charlton Heston, Tom Selleck, Pat Sajak, Ben Stein.

I've run out of names here. Any others? I hard Jay Leno might be conservative, but I'm not sure.

5 posted on 09/22/2001 11:55:42 AM PDT by Right Wing Professor
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To: Lizavetta
International permission? Maybe we should drop the first bomb there.
6 posted on 09/22/2001 11:56:07 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: Irma
Let's add them to the list of anti-Americans, pro-terrorists.
7 posted on 09/22/2001 11:56:32 AM PDT by The Right Stuff
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To: Lizavetta
I'm still trying to understand why they think their celebrity-ness gives their opinions validity.

Danny Glover & Belafonte are the extreme left-fringe of Hollywood. Even the regular liberals, like Spielberg & Julia Roberts for example, have virtually abstained from criticizing Bush and donated money to the victims.

Perhaps Glover suffered one too many hits upside his head during his "Lethal Weapon" Days...

8 posted on 09/22/2001 11:57:38 AM PDT by ServesURight
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To: Irma
I knew it, I knew it! A lot of people here predicted that these clowns would stay silent for a week and then come out against the war and GW Bush. Hollywood people have such a weird, fantasy-land existence that they are the last ones that anybody should listen to. Too bad a lot of people get their views from Hollyweird.
9 posted on 09/22/2001 12:00:22 PM PDT by Hillary 666
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To: Irma
Where were they when Clinton bombed caravans of refugees, the Chinese Embassy, Belgrade, etc, in a selfish attempt to find a "legacy"? Kosovo is still in turmoil & conflict. None of these people in Hollywood, on campuses, & just assorted liberal "pacifists" in general cared that we didn't belong there at all, apparently. Or that we did more harm than good, in spite of the fact Milosivic is gone.
10 posted on 09/22/2001 12:00:31 PM PDT by BonnieJ
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To: Irma
Oooops, looks like Danny Glover couldn't get a taxi in New York again. OK, they've said their piece, now they can shut-up and crawl back in their hole.
11 posted on 09/22/2001 12:01:06 PM PDT by caisson71
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To: Lizavetta
The opinions of many of them are only guided by their ignorance, but their press agents can easily arrange for newpaper copy and broadcasting time because the "entertainment" editors and reporters need something to write and talk about.
12 posted on 09/22/2001 12:01:31 PM PDT by Rocko
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To: Right Wing Professor, Extremely Extreme Extremist
Thanks, RWP....also there are some donating millions of dollars to the relief fund like Jim Carey.
13 posted on 09/22/2001 12:01:38 PM PDT by Irma
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Yeah, let's not make the terrorists mad. A strike could lead to attacks ... on ...civilians ... and ... American cities.............

What a bunch of cowardly morons. The moral relativism is rampant in Hollywood. "Good vs Evil" is NOT U.S. centric, just as the WWII "Good vs. Evil" wasn't U.S. centric even though we led the fight. This is "Good vs. Evil" and we need to use all of our resources to fight it. It is a good and just cause.

Oh, BTW, Osama bin Laden has been wanted by Interpol for quite a number of years and hasn't been captured. You'll pardon me if I don't put the lives of Americans in Interpols hands.

14 posted on 09/22/2001 12:04:37 PM PDT by tbeatty
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To: Irma
What should have been done during the Vietnam war, and isn't too late to do during the war on terrorism, is to set up internment camps for anti-American, war protesters. Everyone alive during that war must surely remember that these folks were pretty much terrorists themselves.

We can't afford to have disruptive heathen running in vandalismesque mobs, giving comfort to the enemy while demoralizing our troops and sewing seeds of discord and division among the populace.

15 posted on 09/22/2001 12:05:43 PM PDT by F.J. Mitchell
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To: UN_list
UN_list: For United Nations articles

Typical Hollywood parasites - stand by for Harry Belfonte singing his new tune:

Hey Mr. Taliban


16 posted on 09/22/2001 12:06:39 PM PDT by RippleFire
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To: F.J. Mitchell
We can't afford to have disruptive heathen running in vandalismesque mobs, giving comfort to the enemy while demoralizing our troops and sewing seeds of discord and division among the populace.

Beautifully written and so correct!

17 posted on 09/22/2001 12:07:56 PM PDT by Irma
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To: tbeatty
Yeah, let's not make the terrorists mad.

LOL

I think we should send these morons to Ground Zero and let them do something useful with their lives.

18 posted on 09/22/2001 12:09:18 PM PDT by Irma
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To: Irma
I have only seen one movie in the past four years, "The Patriot." I normally do not watch television. For a few days after Sept. 11, I had it on. But now it has been off again for a week.

The reason these people are taken seriously is that millions of people buy their "product," even many conservatives.

It's just like the terrorists. Cut off their funding first and you've solved a lot of the problem.

19 posted on 09/22/2001 12:09:31 PM PDT by longleaf
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To: Howlin
Evidently Harry and Danny don't agree with the fabulous suggestion of Andrea Peyser:

IT'S time for the United Nations to get the hell out of town. And take with it CNN war slut Christiane Amanpour.

heh heh

20 posted on 09/22/2001 12:12:26 PM PDT by Irma
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