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To: woollyone
Where do ya'll get this "moon god" garbage? Allah is the God of the Jews and Christians. The Koran attributes Allah as the God Of Abraham.

Moon-god. Sheesh. And I thought the Mormans had it rough.

27 posted on 09/19/2001 1:07:24 PM PDT by AppyPappy
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To: AppyPappy
Pappy,
Respectfully, Allah is the moon-god & according to the founding of Mohammed, he declared allah to be the god of Abraham...which doesn't necessarily make it truth, rather just the man's declaration. Of course he twisted much of the Biblical record. For instance, he declared that it was Ishmael that Abraham was told to sacrafice, not Isaac. Just like much of the lies of the pit, just enough truth to make the lie believable.

please, do look it up for yourself.

baa

28 posted on 09/19/2001 1:16:27 PM PDT by woollyone
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To: AppyPappy

"Allah is the God of the Jews and Christians."

OK, so now I understand the source of your confusion. The Koran specifically denies the deity of Christ, or that He is God incarnate.

Here Muhammad calls Christians liars and calls for "Allah" to destroy them for worshipping Christ!

[9.30] And the Jews say: Uzair is the son of Allah; and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah; these are the words of their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before; may Allah destroy them; how they are turned away!

Here Muhammad writes that Christ wasn't even crucified!

[4.157] And their saying: Surely we have killed the Messiah, Isa son of Marium, the apostle of Allah; and they did not kill him nor did they crucify him, but it appeared to them so (like Isa) and most surely those who differ therein are only in a doubt about it; they have no knowledge respecting it, but only follow a conjecture, and they killed him not for sure.


Here Muhammad tells Christians not to lie about the Christ, and calls Christ but just one of Allah's prophets, and even claims that Allah had no son nor needed one!

[4.171] O followers of the Book! do not exceed the limits in your religion, and do not speak (lies) against Allah, but (speak) the truth; the Messiah, Isa son of Marium is only an apostle of Allah and His Word which He communicated to Marium and a spirit from Him; believe therefore in Allah and His apostles, and say not, Three. Desist, it is better for you; Allah is only one God; far be It from His glory that He should have a son, whatever is in the heavens and whatever is in the earth is His, and Allah is sufficient for a Protector.

Here Muhammad repeats his claim that Christ "is but an apostle" of Allah, then chastises Christians, claiming they have turned away by worshipping Christ!

[5.75] The Messiah, son of Marium is but an apostle; apostles before him have indeed passed away; and his mother was a truthful woman; they both used to eat food. See how We make the communications clear to them, then behold, how they are turned away.

Now, what does the Apostle John tell us of such "spirits?"

I John 4:1-3

"Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world. This is how you can recognize the Spirit of God: Every spirit that acknowledges that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God, but every spirit that does not acknowledge Jesus is not from God. This is the spirit of the antichrist, which you have heard is coming and even now is already in the world."

I John 4:14-15

"And we have seen and testify that the Father has sent his Son to be the Savior of the world. If anyone acknowledges that Jesus is the Son of God, God lives in him and he in God."

II John 7,

"Many deceivers, who do not acknowledge Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh, have gone out into the world. Any such person is the deceiver and the antichrist."

Now you may not agree with any of this, but then that's the difference between Christianity and Islam: you are free to believe anything you wish in a Christian culture. You are not free to do so in a Muslim one.

Now, run along and get this thread pulled because you don't like the truth.

45 posted on 09/20/2001 1:00:34 AM PDT by Stingray
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To: AppyPappy
And just in case you missed the point of my last post to you, the God of the Jews and Christians is the One that sent Christ - His only begotten Son - into the world to suffer and die for us.

Because Islam denies this, Allah is clearly not the same God as that of the Christians and Jews.

47 posted on 09/20/2001 1:07:43 AM PDT by Stingray
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To: AppyPappy

"The Koran attributes Allah as the God Of Abraham."

You could stand in your garage and call yourself a car. Would that make it so?

The Bible specifically denies both of the assertions you are making. Again, you may not believe that, but you do so contrary to the evidence presented to you on this thread.

What's your agenda here, Appy?

49 posted on 09/20/2001 1:26:05 AM PDT by Stingray
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To: AppyPappy

Allah - the Moon God

The Archeology of The Middle East

The religion of Islam has as its focus of worship a deity by the name of "Allah." The Muslims claim that Allah in pre-Islamic times was the biblical God of the Patriarchs, prophets, and apostles. The issue is thus one of continuity. Was "Allah" the biblical God or a pagan god in Arabia during pre-Islamic times? The Muslim's claim of continuity is essential to their attempt to convert Jews and Christians for if "Allah" is part of the flow of divine revelation in Scripture, then it is the next step in biblical religion. Thus we should all become Muslims. But, on the other hand, if Allah was a pre-Islamic pagan deity, then its core claim is refuted. Religious claims often fall before the results of hard sciences such as archeology. We can endlessly speculate about the past or go and dig it up and see what the evidence reveals. This is the only way to find out the truth concerning the origins of Allah. As we shall see, the hard evidence demonstrates that the god Allah was a pagan deity. In fact, he was the Moon-god who was married to the sun goddess and the stars were his daughters.

LINK TO THE REST OF THE ARTICLE......

The pagan Arabs worshipped the Moon-god Allah by praying toward Mecca several times a day; making a pilgrimage to Mecca; running around the temple of the Moon-god called the Kabah; kissing the black stone; killing an animal in sacrifice to the Moon-god; throwing stones at the devil; fasting for the month which begins and ends with the crescent moon; giving alms to the poor, etc.

The Muslim's claim that Allah is the God of the Bible and that Islam arose from the religion of the prophets and apostles is refuted by solid, overwhelming archeological evidence. Islam is nothing more than a revival of the ancient Moon-god cult. It has taken the symbols, the rites, the ceremonies, and even the name of its god from the ancient pagan religion of the Moon-god. As such, it is sheer idolatry and must be rejected by all those who follow the Torah and Gospel. moongod.htm


127 posted on 09/22/2001 1:37:46 AM PDT by marxwas a loser
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