Posted on 09/19/2001 10:47:16 AM PDT by XBob
Actually, no - just saying that it provides justification for lunatics like you.
Actually, all I am doing is practicing the 'christian' belief - 'an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth'.
GET TO WALKING. !!!!!!! AND GO TO KINDERGARTEN.
WOW.
I must be a saint too.
All my life I have consciously refrained from performing miracles, and the odds are for the rest of my life I will probably continue refraining.
but I could, you know...
But even their holy book does not say that there were any witnesses.
Right up there with "compassionate and merciful"; talk is cheap.
Yes! Isn't this knowledge wonderful news for all of us? Perhaps all of us, even nonsaints, are only refraining from working miracles
I don't know about you, but I plan on enjoying my newly discovered non-powers!! : )
Incredible as it may sound, you Mensa graduates have managed to miss the fact that The US has never once gone to war with anyone, nor issued a fatwah for insulting Christianity.
The fact that millions of animals masquerading as people have done so and continue to do so in the name of Islam, also apparently has escaped your notice.
My Punjabi friends never seemed to have a problem with me or other Americans, and last time I was in the Punjab, though a few years ago, they were quite friendly.
Until you counter with factual evidence to support your position, you look really foolish. Plus, based on the evidence Stingray has posted, you look like a Christian who doesn't understand his faith. That's a serious charge that you can prove false, if you have the facts to back you up.
I look forward to hearing your response to the challenges Stingray has presented you with.
Please note who posted this thread to begin with - me.
The Old Testament and the Koran are both full of bad things.
Sorry - my many Moslem friends are not animals masquerading as people, they are fine, honest, compassionate and honorable people, just as are my Christian friends.
I am ashamed of and disgusted by the small percentage of religious fanatics on both sides.
Allah -The Islamic word for God. Muslims worship the God of Abraham as described in the Book of Genesis and believe they are descended from this patriarch. Islam teaches that Allah is the only God and creator of the universe. Muslims usually offer praises when they speak Allah's name, such as "the merciful, beneficent, wise, the loving God."
Im not sure, but it seems to me that you argue ..1) that we have not heretofore been sufficiently provoked to justify our striking back at them, plus 2) we're not absolutely positive who did this, coupled with 3) the fact that doing so would be futile unless we opt to kill them all, and of course 4) since the CIA set the supposed perpetrator up, why should we take it out on them? .Is that a fair summary?
In response, in summary I would say (perhaps I speak for others too?).. 1) we have been sufficiently provoked and our response should be "measured" to respond in kind. Many of us dont want to wait for the next act, which of course you argue isnt coming, or isnt going to be large, or may not come at all if we call off the dogs .. (I think youve said all 3?)
To 2), I say we shouldnt strike until we are positive, and it seems like theyre getting there. and 3) You merely have to destroy the network and frighten the host states into controlling their populations. It can be done, its been done before, it just requires some "re-education" as well as Force ( of course)
and 4)The CIA may muck things up, but these are the cards we've been dealt, and I dont feel like waiting to hear about how my kids were blown up by terrorists at school; which of course you say will never happen, or if it does, it doesent matter in the long run, or if it does, nothing could have been done about it , its out of our hands
In all fairness, I guess if this was '41 and the Japanese had just bombed Pearl Harbor, youd be in favor of a WAR type, response.. Right ? (or would you be talking about how FDR set this up, and it all about trade routes and oil, and hegemony and the WAR Dept,and thats as far as they can reach, and who gives 2 spits about Pearl Harbor? Its not even a US State!!)
I suggest you read a book on US history, any book, even a liberal book of politicially correct US history lies.
Believe it or not, there were people in the West who said the same things about Nazis and Japanese Emperor-Worship as well.
20 years later, West Germany and Japan were two of the wealthiest nations in the world in addition to being two of our closest allies. The sons and daughters of Nazis and Kamikazes thanked us for liberating their countries from the tyranny of such toxic belief systems.
Do you think we should have left those belief systems intact?
As a Christian, it appears you are in need of an education on this subject. Please click on http://www.seafox.com/islam.html and read why Islam is a false religion.
Then the group dynamic, different from the personal dynamic, assumes priority over the individual. This may be counter to the natural aspect of one to one single personal interaction, but in time of war, it is a learned defense mechanism response. To regard an enemy as a collection of independently motivated persons is preposterous, and attempting to assess and delineate them individually under normal circumstances is ridiculous. In short, the left demands we consider the Moslems we are at war with as separate and uniquely possessed individuals and not of a group mentality, while at the same time regarding them as a group whose faith and beliefs are beyond introspection or criticism as a group. This is logical paradox in thought and thus irrational, and a suicidal practice in battle.
That's just about the only crime that hasn't been committed, by the US, in the pursuit of Christian ideals.
However, there are hundreds of thousands of dead Native Americans that might disagree. We have a long history of religious nutsism in the US.
Just because a declaration has never been given, doesnt mean the same results havent occurred.
Not that I in any way disagree with the course of action we are about to take, as a nation. Im on board 100% but, Im not on board with hatred, merely with the understanding of necessity.
Sitting around FR and lifting select lines from religious texts, for the purpose of enforcing a negative stereo-type does nothing but make us look like the ignorant racists that we are so often accused of being by pinheads like the people at DU.com.
I could sit here all day and pick and choose stupid lines - which are every bit as hate filled as the quotes above - from the Bible. Islam is no more fundamentally evil than the Jewish faith, or Hindu, or Buddhist, or even certain sects of Christianity and attempting to make villains out of Muslims, in general, is every bit as misguided and foul-minded as Muslim-extremists attempting to make villains out of Christians and Jews.
But, Im sure you know all this, being the Im-going-to-talk-down-to-you-idiots genius that you are.
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