Here may be our problem with Islam

In the name of Allah, the Beneficent, the Merciful.[47.1] (As for) those who disbelieve and turn away from Allah's way, He shall render their works ineffective.
[47.2] And (as for) those who believe and do good, and believe in what has been revealed to Muhammad, and it is the very truth from their Lord, He will remove their evil from them and improve their condition.
[47.3] That is because those who disbelieve follow falsehood, and have given them their dowries, taking (them) in marriage, not fornicating nor taking them for paramours in secret; and whoever denies faith, his work indeed is of no account, and in the hereafter he shall be one of the losers.
[47.4] So when you meet in battle those who disbelieve, then smite the necks until when you have overcome them, then make (them) prisoners, and afterwards either set them free as a favor or let them ransom (themselves) until the war terminates. That (shall be so); and if Allah had pleased He would certainly have exacted what is due from them, but that He may try some of you by means of others; and (as for) those who are slain in the way of Allah, He will by no means allow their deeds to perish.
[47.5] He will guide them and improve their condition.
[47.6] And cause them to enter the garden which He has made known to them.
[47.7] O you who believe ! if you help (the cause of) Allah, He will help you and make firm your feet.
[47.8] And (as for) those who disbelieve, for them is destruction and He has made their deeds ineffective.
[47.9] That is because they hated what Allah revealed, so He rendered their deeds null.
[47.10] Have they not then journeyed in the land and seen how was the end of those before them: Allah brought down destruction upon them, and the unbelievers shall have the like of it.
[47.11] That is because Allah is the Protector of those who believe, and because the unbelievers shall have no protector for them.
[47.12] Surely Allah will make those who believe and do good enter gardens beneath which rivers flow; and those who disbelieve enjoy themselves and eat as the beasts eat, and the fire is their abode.
[47.13] And how many a town which was far more powerful than the town of yours which has driven you out: We destroyed them so there was no helper for them.
[47.14] What! is he who has a clear argument from his Lord like him to whom the evil of his work is made fairseeming: and they follow their low desires.
[47.15] A parable of the garden which those guarding (against evil) are promised: Therein are rivers of water that does not alter, and rivers of milk the taste whereof does not change, and rivers of drink delicious to those who drink, and rivers of honey clarified and for them therein are all fruits and protection from their Lord. (Are these) like those who abide in the fire and who are made to drink boiling water so it rends their bowels asunder.
[47.16] And there are those of them who seek to listen to you, until when they go forth from you, they say to those who have been given the knowledge: What was it that he said just now? These are they upon whose hearts Allah has set a seal and they follow their low desires.
[47.17] And (as for) those who follow the right direction, He increases them in guidance and gives them their guarding (against evil).
[47.18] Do they then wait for aught but the hour that it should come to them all of a sudden? Now indeed the tokens of it have (already) come, but how shall they have their reminder when it comes on them?
[47.19] So know that there is no god but Allah, and, ask protection for your fault and for the believing men and the believing women; and Allah knows the place of your returning and the place of your abiding.
[47.20] And those who believe say: Why has not a chapter been revealed? But when a decisive chapter is revealed, and fighting is mentioned therein you see those in whose hearts is a disease look to you with the look of one fainting because of death. Woe to them then!
[47.21] Obedience and a gentle word (was proper); but when the affair becomes settled, then if they remain true to Allah it would certainly be better for them.
[47.22] But if you held command, you were sure to make mischief in the land and cut off the ties of kinship!
[47.23] Those it is whom Allah has cursed so He has made them deaf and blinded their eyes.
[47.24] Do they not then reflect on the Quran? Nay, on the hearts there are locks.
[47.25] Surely (as for) those who return on their backs after that guidance has become manifest to them, the Shaitan has made it a light matter to them; and He gives them respite.
[47.26] That is because they say to those who hate what Allah has revealed: We will obey you in some of the affairs; and Allah knows their secrets.
[47.27] But how will it be when the angels cause them to die smiting their backs.
[47.28] That is because they follow what is displeasing to Allah and are averse to His pleasure, therefore He has made null their deeds.
[47.29] Or do those in whose hearts is a disease think that Allah will not bring forth their spite?
[47.30] And if We please We would have made you know them so that you would certainly have recognized them by their marks and most certainly you can recognize them by the intent of (their) speech; and Allah knows your deeds.
[47.31] And most certainly We will try you until We have known those among you who exert themselves hard, and the patient, and made your case manifest.
[47.32] Surely those who disbelieve and turn away from Allah's way and oppose the Apostle after that guidance has become clear to them cannot harm Allah in any way, and He will make null their deeds.
[47.33] O you who believe! obey Allah and obey the Apostle, and do not make your deeds of no effect.
[47.34] Surely those who disbelieve and turn away from Allah's way, then they die while they are unbelievers, Allah will by no means forgive them.
[47.35] And be not slack so as to cry for peace and you have the upper hand, and Allah is with you, and He will not bring your deeds to naught.
[47.36] The life of this world is only idle sport and play, and if you believe and guard (against evil) He will give you your rewards, and will not ask of you your possessions.
[47.37] If He should ask you for it and urge you, you will be niggardly, and He will bring forth your malice.
[47.38] Behold! you are those who are called upon to spend in Allah's way, but among you are those who are niggardly, and whoever is niggardly is niggardly against his own soul; and Allah is Self-sufficient and you have need (of Him), and if you turn back He will bring in your place another people, then they will not be like you.

XBob asked me the reason I found heroin so interesting, and even if the Taliban is heroin-reformed, which I doubt, that doesn't alter my answer.

With all due respect for your religious sensibilities, speaking factually, you are holding a bust hand here.

U.S. Newswire 18 Sep 9:00 Prosecute Bin Laden Through Taliban Heroin Connection, Ex-White House Drug Staffer Urges

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WASHINGTON, Sept. 18, 2001 /U.S. Newswire/ -- The following was released today by Robert Weiner Associates:

-- Prosecute Bin Laden Through Taliban Heroin Connection, Ex-White House Drug Staffer Urges

-- A.G. And Sec. State Should Look At Taliban Nurturing Funds From World-Leading Opium Cultivation And Heroin Production

Robert Weiner, former White House drug policy director of public affairs and spokesman for Drug Czars Barry McCaffrey and Lee Brown, is suggesting the investigation and prosecution of terrorist Osama bin Laden through the Taliban's "nurturing" of funds from Afghanistan's world-leading opium poppy cultivation, the raw product for heroin production, as an additional way to expose and prosecute the way "bin Laden and those who harbor him may get a great part of their operational money."

Weiner's statement follows:

As evidence grows of Osama bin Laden and his network's connection to the most horrific terrorism in our history, and as President Bush promises to mobilize the nation for a military campaign against those who harbor such terrorists and a disruption of their financing, consider this fact: Afghanistan is the world's largest producer of the opium poppy, the crop refined into heroin. According to the State department, Afghanistan's poppy cultivation area has quadrupled since 1990.

The Taliban government has made no effective attack against opium cultivation or production. On the contrary, they have nurtured the development of an infrastructure for the production of heroin "in contrast to several years ago when nearly all heroin refining took place outside the country," the State Department reports. Despite Taliban claims, officials believe that nothing indicates that the Taliban intends to take serious action to destroy heroin laboratories or stop drug trafficking.

Or this:

Taliban's heroin 'double-cross'
The Daily Telegraph
By Julian West and Philip Sherwell
Sunday 18 February 2001

THE poppy fields of Afghanistan's Golden Crescent, normally the source of three-quarters of the world's heroin, have been transformed this year, according to United Nations drugs officials.

Cash crop: Afghanistan was the source last year for 75 per cent of the world supply of opium After a detailed two-week tour, they say that few of the 175,000 acres formerly covered by the deadly opium crop are still in bloom. The fundamentalist Taliban regime ordered the country's farmers to stop growing poppies following an edict by Mullah Omar, the supreme religious leader, that opium cultivation is un-Islamic.

The move, however, has little to do with a new religious stance from the Islamic fundamentalist movement, which has been happy to bolster its coffers with the proceeds of the drugs trade. Rather, it is a cynical effort to win UN recognition and with it the lifting of sanctions and the restoration of foreign aid.

Western diplomats believe that if the tactic fails, poppy production will soon resume. In the meantime, the regime is believed to be taking advantage of soaring heroin prices - up four-fold in a year - to release controlled supplies from their large stockpiles of the roughly refined drug on to the market through middlemen.

The biggest financial losers of the cutback in poppy-growing are the country's already impoverished farmers. Their replacement crops of wheat and vegetables are much less lucrative, meaning that some families have even been forced to sell their young daughters into marriage to pay off debts.

American officials confirm that there has been a substantial drop in Afghan poppy cultivation but believe that the team from the UN Drug Control Programme is being "overly optimistic" by saying that the crop has been wiped out.

I have pity for all those that reject the truth and follow a false teaching. Everything I stated was fact and no where did I state that I personaly hate anyone. The fact is that the majority of islamic states twist their own perveted religion into hating Americans. Radical islam is similar to Nazi Germany and communist USSR and China in their destruction of life and humnaity. I pray that you will see the light and that muslims stop attacking Israel which are God's chosen people and Jeruslaem is their eternal capitol. Only twisted people and a twisted religion could preach hate and to kill their enemies. Christ tells us to love our enemies and I struggle with this every day in trying to do just this. Muslims take adavantage of this Christian philosiphy everyday and murder us. September 11 is just another example of middle east hatred and muslim hatred similar to East Timor and the killings there as well as Sudan and countless other places under the name of islam where chirstians are killed. This is the antichrist and if you consider that hate speach so be it. It is the truth and you can't hide this or wash it away or try to sugar coat it. Millions are mislead to this false teaching of hate in the muslim world because they fear the spread of Christianity. I will in no way take any blame for your leaving or rejecting the christian faith. If this was your reasoning why would you than stand by what the hate filled muslims are doing in the name of islam killing everywhere? If you do not go by doctrine but by the attitudes and actions of that religions believers than you are the largest hipocrit on the planet along with Bin Laden. Forgive my blunt talk and attitude because I am no longer tolerant of radicals killing my fellow Americans in the name of Islam. I pray for you and I pray for God's will to be done. I also stand by my country 100% in the goal to go after and erraticate all terrorists and murderers around the globe.

Dear ladies and gentleman, FYI we have an activist in here with nothing better to do than argue all day long. Having been asked to shut up about spreading propoganda about his religion and politics on news.grc.com, he proceeds to come here and spread more propoganda. Unemployed and scrounging off state welfare while exercising his freedom of speech which also covers telling lies and twisting anything people post and deliberately quoting out of context. You should be aware that (ankaboot) aka (Abujamal) aka (Sheikh Dawud Ahmad Al-Amriki) is well known across many newsgroups as a TROLL. A visit to grc.news.feedback and grc.ten-forward a week or so back will give you an indication of what this guy is all about. He loves nothing better than to expose peoples names and addresses if they disagree with him or his activist minions. He will argue forever about nothing just for arguements sake and he is best off completely ignored as he always has to have the last word. Ignoring him completely like so many others do upsets him all the more and he goes away with his tail between his legs to spread FUD elsewhere. You will also find his propoganda on muslim groups on deja. A visit to his website at http://www.muslimamerica.net will give you an idea that this guy is a troublemaker first class. He uses 3 different email addresses that are well known muslims@earthlink.net abujamal@pchelpers.org and muslims@muslimamerica.net. Sheikh Dawud Ahmad Al-Amriki, Muslim America, P.O. Box 231, Springdale, WA, 99173-0231, tel. (509) 258-9031, fax 1 (800) Muslims. Springdale, WA USA Here are some other useful details about this TROLL that is trying to hide his identity under this new alias. Beware like all TROLLS he has many aliases but he is easy to spot from his email addresses and the propoganda he spreads. He claims the only hope for America is Islam and that if you insult him that you should be careful his more militant brothers do not get to hear of it from him. Do a little research on him with the above search criteria and you will turn up alsorts of fundamentalist and radical activist crap, screaming for jihad and many more of his cut and paste ramblings posted to enflame and poke a reaction. Hey Abujamal, Give it up TROLL the game is up. We know what you are. We know what you stand for and we know what you are up to. *vome*

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