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Pat Buchanan: U.S. Pays the High Price of Empire
Los Angeles Times ^ | 09/18/2001 | Patrick J. Buchanan

Posted on 09/18/2001 6:41:29 AM PDT by Pokey78

Edited on 09/03/2002 4:49:19 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

As the twin towers of the World Trade Center came down in flames, taking 5,000 Americans with them, an unserious era in U.S. history came to an end. "All is changed, changed utterly," wrote poet W.B. Yeats. President Bush has now received full authority to wage war against all who abetted the slaughter. It must be done. Our American family cannot permit the mass murder of our brothers and sisters to go unpunished. But as the president directs the moral outrage of his wounded nation, he will need the wisdom of Solomon.


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To: Luis Gonzalez
Luis Gonzalez post # 307 stated: "I, on the other hand, can provide dozens of posts proving your fascist ideology, your usage of Hitlerian language to describe minorities, and your compulsive lying".

OK Luis I'll bite. Since you have now called me a Nazi and racist, show me the DOZENS of posts that I supposdly posted with fascist ideology with Hitlerian language to describe minorities. Oh and don't forget to reveal all of that compulsive lying as you describe on your post #307.

Unfortunately Luis you wont find any. Like I said before on this thread Luis, JimRob don't tolerate that kind of BS.

But since you stated that I have done this and posted all these dozens of facist hitler ideology stuff as you stated, it should be real easy for you to find it. I will be waiting to see your evidence and proof Luis.

9/20/01 I AM STILL WAITING LUIS FOR YOU TO PROVIDE THE EVIDENCE AND PROOF YOU SPEAK OF. SHOW ME THESE DOZENS OF POSTS ABOUT ALL OF THIS FACIST IDEOLOGY AND HITLERIAN LANGUAGE THAT YOU SAY I USED TO DESCRIBE MINORITIES, AND PLEASE PRESENT EXAMPLES OF ALL THAT COMPULSIVE LYING THAT YOU HAVE ACCUSED ME OF.

Like I said yesterday Luis, you wont find any because everything you have accused me of is a lie. I have been waiting since yesterday for you to provide me with the dozens of posts that you speak of and you have failed to do so.

I suggest that next time you accuse someone of being a Nazi and racist that you better have proof and evidence. You should be ashamed of yourself. And I believe you owe me a formal and public apology.

341 posted on 09/20/2001 8:58:38 AM PDT by Joe Hadenuf
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To: Luis Gonzalez
Willie?
Would that be short for Wylhelm?

Actually, I am named after my grandfather.
He was the first child (on my father's side) of our family to actually be born in the United States.
My immigrant great-grandparents were so happy to be here (legally) that they named their first child after the President: William McKinley. (He was the GOP President who won the Spanish-American War which resulted in Cuban Independence from Spain.)

Of course, this doesn't mean anything to someone who is hellbent on making a jack@$$ out of themselves, such as yourself.

342 posted on 09/20/2001 11:06:15 AM PDT by Willie Green (Go Pat Go!!!)
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To: Joe Hadenuf, Willie Green, Pat "Blame America First" Buchanan and the rest of the Lunatic Fringe
While you guys are busy defending an anti-semitic, washed-up speech writer, who has yet to be elected to anything, I've been busy.

Took a week off from work, and have spent it collecting $$$ to help the victims of terrorism (other than Pat's).

REAL AMERICANS do not sit of their ass defending a Nazi on the Internet when their nation needs them.

I see that you've both been busy on the Internet these past few days.

343 posted on 09/20/2001 3:54:47 PM PDT by Luis Gonzalez
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To: Luis Gonzalez
I was accused by Luis Gonzalez of the following, which are lies. Luis you throw out these outrageous accusations and you cannot back them up. When you accuse someone of being a Nazi and racist that's real serious buddy. And I am still waiting for you to provide your evidence and proof. How dare you make these accusations to me. Put up or shut up Luis.

Luis Gonzalez post # 307 stated: "I, on the other hand, can provide dozens of posts proving your fascist ideology, your usage of Hitlerian language to describe minorities, and your compulsive lying".

OK Luis I'll bite. Since you have now called me a Nazi and racist, show me the DOZENS of posts that I supposdly posted with fascist ideology with Hitlerian language to describe minorities. Oh and don't forget to reveal all of that compulsive lying as you describe on your post #307.

Unfortunately Luis you wont find any. Like I said before on this thread Luis, JimRob don't tolerate that kind of BS.

But since you stated that I have done this and posted all these dozens of facist hitler ideology stuff as you stated, it should be real easy for you to find it. I will be waiting to see your evidence and proof Luis.

9/20/01 I AM STILL WAITING LUIS FOR YOU TO PROVIDE THE EVIDENCE AND PROOF YOU SPEAK OF. SHOW ME THESE DOZENS OF POSTS ABOUT ALL OF THIS FACIST IDEOLOGY AND HITLERIAN LANGUAGE THAT YOU SAY I USED TO DESCRIBE MINORITIES, AND PLEASE PRESENT EXAMPLES OF ALL THAT COMPULSIVE LYING THAT YOU HAVE ACCUSED ME OF.

Like I said yesterday Luis, you wont find any because everything you have accused me of is a lie. I have been waiting since yesterday for you to provide me with the dozens of posts that you speak of and you have failed to do so.

I suggest that next time you accuse someone of being a Nazi and racist that you better have proof and evidence. You should be ashamed of yourself. And I believe you owe me a formal and public apology.

344 posted on 09/20/2001 4:16:42 PM PDT by Joe Hadenuf
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To: Luis Gonzalez, Joe Hadenuf
Don't hold your breath waiting for an apology, Joe.
With his intentional quotation of Buchanan out of context, Luis has proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that he's just another bitter ethnocentric bigot. That kind of ignorance only dies out with the passage of generations, when children become better educated than their parents. Luis is a disgrace. Hopefully, his children won't be so ignorant.
345 posted on 09/20/2001 5:11:00 PM PDT by Willie Green (Go Pat Go!!!)
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To: Joe Hadenuf, Willie Green and all the "Blame America First" lunatic fringe 1%
Hell Joe, I'm still waiting for proof that I defend illegal immigrants, how convenient for you never to have that proof around, you accuse me of defending criminals Joe, you lie, but then again, you and Willie spend half your life making excuses for that has-been, make that never will be, Nazi lunatic Pat "I never met a Nazi I didn't defend" Buchanan.

Here's the whole quote Willie, go ahead and disect it and try to cover up the near orgasmic praise for the greatest mass murderering megalomaniac of recent times by your fearless leader Herr Pat.

"Those of us in childhood during the war years were introduced to Hitler only as a caricature…Though Hitler was indeed racist and anti-Semitic to the core, a man who without compunction could commit murder and genocide, he was also an individual of great courage, a soldier’s soldier in the Great War, a leader steeped in the history of Europe, who possessed oratorical powers that could awe even those who despised him. But Hitler’s success was not based on his extraordinary gifts alone. His genius was an intuitive sense of the mushiness, the character flaws, the weakness masquerading as morality that was in the hearts of the statesmen who stood in his path."
Pat Buchanan, St. Louis Globe – Democrat, Aug 25, 1977 Bye boys, got better things to do, don't forget to Seig Heil one another later.

346 posted on 09/20/2001 6:01:25 PM PDT by Luis Gonzalez
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To: Joe Hadenuf
To: Joe Hadenuf
"parasites"...one of Adolf Hitler's favorite words to describe Jews.

You challenge me to find how many times you've used the word "parasites" when talking about Mexican illegals Herr Joe?

311 Posted on 09/19/2001 17:21:35 PDT by Luis Gonzalez
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To: Luis Gonzalez
Get lost sonny.

313 Posted on 09/19/2001 17:26:43 PDT by Joe Hadenuf
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BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Translation!

SH!T!!! Luis busted me!!!!

347 posted on 09/20/2001 6:14:11 PM PDT by Luis Gonzalez
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To: Luis Gonzalez
Luis Gonzalez post # 307 stated: "I, on the other hand, can provide dozens of posts proving your fascist ideology, your usage of Hitlerian language to describe minorities, and your compulsive lying".

OK Luis I'll bite. Since you have now called me a Nazi and racist, show me the DOZENS of posts that I supposdly posted with fascist ideology with Hitlerian language to describe minorities. Oh and don't forget to reveal all of that compulsive lying as you describe on your post #307.

The above proves you are a liar. You failed to provide the proof and evidence that you accused me of above. Those are your words Luis. You accused me of being a racist and a Nazi. Yet, You could not back up what you accused me of. You sir Mr. Luis Gonzales are a liar and it is very clear for everyone to see. You are a typical race baiter that runs around flailing your arms screaming racism and accusing people of being Nazis and racist, yet you have no offer of proof after you stated you had proof. That makes you as bad as any Nazi or racist in my opinion.

I hope this is a good lesson for anyone out there that may have read these last few post. If you ever accuse anyone of anything, and then say you can provide proof, you better be able to back it up. If not, your credibility will be lost, and you will be known as a dishonest person.

I APOLOGIZE TO THE FREE REPUBLIC FOR CONTINUING THIS UGLY MATTER. I WAS PERSONALLY ACCUSED BY LUIS OF BEING A RACIST AND NAZI AND THEN TOLD THAT HE CAN PROVIDE EVIDENCE, AND THEN HE FAILED TO DO THIS. THIS WAS IMPORTANT TO ME, TO PUT THIS OUT IN THE OPEN.

I again apoligize to Jim Robinson and the Free Republic.

I will now end this incident. Joe Hadenuf

348 posted on 09/20/2001 6:47:51 PM PDT by Joe Hadenuf
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To: Joe Hadenuf
No need for any kind of apology Joe. You notice that none of these sheep were able to make any effective rebuttal to the Buchanan editorial? All they could come up with was personal attacks. Pat was 100% right on in his article and the flock can't stand it.
349 posted on 09/20/2001 7:37:39 PM PDT by Greg Weston (AMERICA FIRST ALWAYS!!!)
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To: AdamWeisshaupt
Amen Adam.
351 posted on 09/20/2001 10:52:16 PM PDT by Greg Weston (America First!!!)
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To: AppyPappy
And I thought it couldn't get any worse that those stupid, idiotic comments by Falwell and Robertson. I was obviously wrong. This kind of crap is exactly why Buchanan would be dangerous as our President.
352 posted on 09/20/2001 10:58:55 PM PDT by connectthedots
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To: Cincinatus
What a yutz.

What happened? Did you use your index finder when you should have used your pinky?

353 posted on 09/20/2001 11:01:22 PM PDT by connectthedots
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To: Psycho_Bunny
Patrick J. Buchanan - a very intelligent, and sometimes insightful, jackass

In only seven words, you have pretty much nailed down Pat Buchanan.

354 posted on 09/20/2001 11:14:28 PM PDT by connectthedots
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To: Pokey78
Pat's title is great: U.S. Pays the High Price of Empire.

And now he wants to put a sur tax on the wealthy to pay for the war!

LOL! Fulani would be proud.

355 posted on 09/21/2001 2:15:29 AM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: CWOJackson
Other Globalist spouts off...You probably want to change USA to "UGA"--Universal Globalists of America.
356 posted on 09/21/2001 2:51:52 AM PDT by Greg Weston
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To: Greg Weston
Sure thing...as compared to Pat's idea of socialism? LOL! Keep dreaming boyo.
357 posted on 09/21/2001 2:59:04 AM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: Old Hickory
As Joe Sobran said, the government is telling us our enemies hate us for our virtues. Amazing how flattering and appealing it is to believe that. I have never known that to be true in my life or in history. always question our corrupt government. If it is true, OK, but don't believe everything you are being told in the media.
359 posted on 09/22/2001 12:57:33 PM PDT by Paleo-Con
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