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Local Teens Shrug Off Terror (Lee's District...apples not far from tree)
Alemeda Times Star ^ | September 16, 2001 | Paul T. Rosynsky and Jane Rochmes

Posted on 09/17/2001 3:16:15 PM PDT by watsonfellow

Local teens shrug off terror attacks

Many say they feel little loyalty as they can't rely on government

By Paul T. Rosynsky and Jane Rochmes STAFF WRITER

OAKLAND -- While much of America is uniting to fight the evils of terrorism, many East Bay high school students said Friday a war is not theirs to wage.

As hundreds gathered on the steps of City Hall Friday to remember those lost Tuesday during the dev astating terrorist attacks in New York City and the Pentagon, high school students came together in stead to talk of weekend plans and the latest gossip.

The wave of patriotism across the country hasn't reached many area teen-agers who questioned Friday the need to retaliate and vowed not to fight if called upon for duty.

With the terrorist attacks occur ring more than 3,000 miles away, teen-agers had trouble making a connection to the tragedies and a harder time finding a reason to care.

"It didn't happen in Oakland, it could have but it didn't, so I don't feel scared or nothing," said Hieu Le, 15, a student at Castlemont High School. "Why should I go fight in a war and die for nothing."

Similar feelings were echoed throughout the blacktop courtyard of McClymonds High School and corridors of Berkeley High.

Although many said they felt sym pathy for the victims and those who had lost loved ones, when it came to risking their own lives to fight for America, most said they would try to find a way out.

"I'm not risking my life for that, I love myself too much," said Amir Kellogg, 17, as he sat with friends during lunch. "If they came after me I would have to run."

Their lack of desire to defend freedom comes, they explained, from a lack of confidence in the government to help their own communities. Many blamed the U.S. relationship with the world as reasons for the attacks and said they don't want to help because they have not received help in the past.

"How are you going to defend a nation if that nation can't defend against things like homelessness," asked Jamaal Germaine, 15, a sophomore at McClymonds High School. "I'm not in a rush to help our country because our country is already messed up."

Students instead said any war waged by the country against ter rorist states of the world would only worsen the situation, setting off an infinite series of retalia tions.

"I think the United States deserves it," said Berkeley High senior Pat rick Rizzo. "It's pretty sad for the poor people, but the United States does the same thing. We're prob ably going to do the same thing after this. We're not going to send anybody into the country, we're just going to bomb them like they did us."

Added senior Phillip Chan: "I don't think that going and attacking a specific country is going to solve anything."

And with the only exposure to war coming through television high lights of the Persian Gulf War, teen-agers said they see no need to risk human life when the country can instead depend on technology to fight evil.

"If there is a war, it won't be a war like we're used to in the past," said Antwonn Smith, 17. "We got too many missiles to use. We're not even going to have to send people out there."

Jane Senemen is news editor of the Berkeley High School Yellow Jacket.


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To: WIMom
"I am so glad I live in the Mid-west so my kids grew up with values and morals that made this country great".

What the hell kind of stupid statement is this? So what you are saying is that if you aren't raised in the mid west you don't have proper morals or values. What a stupid ass statement. Totally pathetic.

"Thanks for the thoughtful and mature comment".

Your welcome, as your response to me, should have been addressed to yourself. Just think about what you wrote, and I am sure you will agree that where you live in this nation or grow up has nothing do do with having proper values or morals. Geezzz.

122 posted on 09/17/2001 5:05:35 PM PDT by Joe Hadenuf
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To: watsonfellow
I'm volunteering Amir, Jamaal, Hieu, Patrick, and Antwonn for the first line of human mine-sweepers we land in Afghanistan. (Did I miss anybody?)
123 posted on 09/17/2001 5:06:13 PM PDT by Map Kernow
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To: jothamdorn
If the federal police state continues to grow at the expense of personal liberty then there is no reason for the United States of America to continue to exist.

I strongly disagree.

It's true that the WOD has eroded personal liberty a lot more than I would like but I don't share your level of despair. America is still the freedom capitol of the world. What I do find discouraging is your readiness to abandon America on this pretext. The biography you volunteered makes your position even sadder but if you wish to align yourself with the arrogant, 'self-loving' teenagers quoted in this article, that's your choice to make.

Thanks for letting us know who we can count on in the days to come and who thinks America isn't worth having.

124 posted on 09/17/2001 5:07:52 PM PDT by Jim Scott
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To: Mr.Clark
These teenagers are absolutely NOT representative of the ones I know here in Texas. Our kids are horrified and angry and recognize that this evil must be stopped. One young lady summarized it for me: "America is cool. And those people that hate us? They're GOING DOWN." Works for me.
125 posted on 09/17/2001 5:09:01 PM PDT by walden
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To: WIMom
My son isn't as old as your children, but he believes in justice and retribution, as well. Something about Wisconsin? :)

Someone mentioned that if this had happened on the West coast, they wouldn't lend a hand. On Tuesday, facing all the horror and not knowing if there was an end in sight, I moaned to my husband that if this had happened on the West coast, I wouldn't be nearly as upset. So the entertainment industry gets waylaid for awhile . . .what's so bad about that?

126 posted on 09/17/2001 5:09:09 PM PDT by WIladyconservative
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To: watsonfellow
"I'm not risking my life for that, I love myself too much," said Amir Kellogg, 17, as he sat with friends during lunch. "If they came after me I would have to run." ....That's a very telling statement.But,alas,I wouldn't expect anything different from the People's Republic Of CA.(Spare the rod & spoil the country!)
127 posted on 09/17/2001 5:09:12 PM PDT by gimme1ibertee
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To: Rebeckie
Really, I just hate how the media never has anything good to say about teens...as if one high school is represenative of a whole nation of teenage kids. I am still a teenager, although soon not to be, and am very patriotic and also a conservative Republican. People just need to open their eyes, there are more like me out there, lots more.

Thank goodness - and thanks for reminding us.

Excellent point about the media giving a few anti-American teens more exposure than they should have, just to make some liberal point. They are the minority.

128 posted on 09/17/2001 5:12:32 PM PDT by Jim Scott
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To: watsonfellow
"I think the United States deserves it," said Berkeley High senior Pat "Rick" Rizzo.

SHAME!

129 posted on 09/17/2001 5:13:20 PM PDT by Force12
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To: RogueIsland
Eight years of Clintonian brain-washing,as well as extremely poor parenting,has brought us to this.
130 posted on 09/17/2001 5:13:48 PM PDT by gimme1ibertee
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To: freeplancer
What are their parents teaching them anyway? Ridiculous little commies.

What do we expect? Their parents (if they can be identified) are just commies themselves.

131 posted on 09/17/2001 5:14:41 PM PDT by medic
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To: Jim Scott
Don't forget that the Revolution was fought by Englishmen against Englishmen for the rights of Englishmen. The Civil War was fought by Americans who believed in personal liberty against Americans who believed in the liberty of the states. Are you calling me a traitor? I swore an oath to defend the constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic. My oath and my family honor require that I use my own best judgement in this situation. I will go to prison before I support any more totalitarian enactments and I will leave before I go to prison.
132 posted on 09/17/2001 5:16:08 PM PDT by jothamdorn
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To: watsonfellow

Children of the Blue Zone

The children of the blues have been totally indoctrinated by the left. Their time will come and I believe that 8 weeks with a desensitized Drill Instructor will bring most of them around.

133 posted on 09/17/2001 5:19:14 PM PDT by TC Rider
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To: Naspino
Maybe it will turn out to be an easy target. The feds nabbed someone at or in Berkeley, one less if arrested, not detained.
134 posted on 09/17/2001 5:20:17 PM PDT by boltfromblue
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To: Rebeckie
MOST teenagers are like you, in fact. The polls show that 80% to 90% support military action, and I doubt that percentage differs much between age groups.
135 posted on 09/17/2001 5:20:24 PM PDT by walden
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To: Mr.Clark
Don't you worry, it is isolated. In my town, right smack dab in the middle of Wisconsin, probably one of the safest places from terrorism, just because theres not much here, the attacks of last week dominated conversation on our bus rides home from school. We've moved on somewhat, but we do realize the impact these events will have.
136 posted on 09/17/2001 5:25:14 PM PDT by futurepotus
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To: Joe Hadenuf
I said "I am so glad I live in the Mid-west ... ". I said nothing about you or anyone else, so don't make insinuations or assumptions that are not there. Your foul comments and language are not one bit respected. Save it for the alley.
137 posted on 09/17/2001 5:28:14 PM PDT by WIMom
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To: All
Hey!!! Quit bashing California. Just because the wacko liberals have bigger mouths, doesn't mean there aren't a ton of conservatives here. It disgusts me that some of you say you wouldn't help California. Does that include all the children at our Christian school, where 95% of the students "voted" Republican during the last election? Does that include my six year old son who said, after hearing a Clinton speech, said "If Clinton is saying these things, they must be lies!". Well, when you refuse to help us, you will be losing many great conservatives. Hope that makes you happy.
138 posted on 09/17/2001 5:42:10 PM PDT by Politicalmom
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To: No Truce With Kings
A salute to your two sons. God bless them and you.
139 posted on 09/17/2001 5:44:18 PM PDT by mountaineer
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To: Outraged At FLA
I would prefer it with some red gravy, thank you.

FReegards,

140 posted on 09/17/2001 5:45:49 PM PDT by VMI70
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