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To: Dakmar
I didn't say hit, I said use the degree of force necessary for defense. I've never been told I couldn't defend myself from anyone, regardless of gender. I doubt few others have either, it's just a matter of degree.

You're the first poster to tell me that.

If a girl I'm dating gets mad and hits me, it is my duty to shrug it off.

You just made my point for me. It's your right to defend yourself and disable your attacker, not to just "shrug it off".

If she continues to hit me, I will restrain her...

Ask Warren Moon how well that works.

...or leave, depending on the situation, and terminate the relationship.

So now you're using common sense against me, huh?

If a total stranger runs up and hits me (not counting small children), I will beat the living crap out of them, again regardless of gender.

As is your right.

I am still having trouble understanding what point you are trying to make.

My original point was how would one rebut that violence is the result of men. Excellent historical evidence to the contrary, as well as the comment the they who rock the cradle rule the world, was provided in response.

Hopefully, this post will clear up any other confusion.

82 posted on 09/17/2001 4:40:18 PM PDT by Balto_Boy
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To: Balto_Boy
If a girl I'm dating gets mad and hits me, it is my duty to shrug it off.

You just made my point for me. It's your right to defend yourself and disable your attacker, not to just "shrug it off".

It's my duty to society to be civilized and not squish like a bug anyone who crosses me. It also seems wrong to use my power (physical strength, in this case) in retaliation for a brief emotional outburst. We sometimes argue with those we care about, and should try to moderate our response. Those who would maliciously harm us deserve the best (or worst, depending on POV) malice we can dream up.

So, I guess I agree with you, I just couldn't see where you were coming from or going with all this. Best Wishes, Good Will, and Good Night. :-)

86 posted on 09/17/2001 5:24:22 PM PDT by Dakmar
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To: Balto_Boy
Correction: I don't really agree with you, totally. I meant to say something more along the lines of I can understand your side of the argument and why you feel that way, was all. Keep up the good fight, though.
87 posted on 09/17/2001 5:34:24 PM PDT by Dakmar
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