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To: sinkspur
"Your pastor knows Jesus, who condemned the Pharisees for the sentiments some are expressing here."

Give us one example of Jesus condemning anyone "for the sentiments some are expressing here".

We are waiting.

Still waiting.

The reason why you cannot is due to the fact that you haven't a clue as to what Jesus actually said, only what you want Him to say. Here is what He actually said:

But when he saw many of the Pharisees and Sadducees come to his baptism, he said unto them, O generation of vipers, who hath warned you to flee from the wrath to come? Bring forth therefore fruits meet for repentance: And think not to say within yourselves, We have Abraham to our father: for I say unto you, that God is able of these stones to raise up children unto Abraham. And now also the axe is laid unto the root of the trees: therefore every tree which bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance: but he that cometh after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost, and with fire: Whose fan is in his hand, and he will throughly purge his floor, and gather his wheat into the garner; but he will burn up the chaff with unquenchable fire. (Matthew 3:7-12)

In other words, Jesus warned of the judgment to come, just as Jonathan Edwards did.

24 posted on 09/17/2001 11:58:27 AM PDT by Jerry_M
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To: Jerry_M
bmarked for a later read
44 posted on 09/17/2001 12:22:47 PM PDT by billbears
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To: Jerry_M
Two men went up to the Temple to pray, one a Pharisee, the other a tax collector. The Pharisee stood there and said this prayer to himself, "I thank you, God, that I am not grasping, unjust, adulterous like the rest of mankind, and particularly that I am not like this tax collector here. I fast twice a week; I pay tithes on all I get.

The tax collector stood some distance away, not daring even to raise his eyes to heaven; but he beat his breast and said, "God be merciful to me, a sinner." This man, I tell you, went home again at rights with God; the other did not. For everyone who exalts himself will be humbled, but the man who humbles himself will be exalted."(Luke 18: 9-14)

54 posted on 09/17/2001 12:32:52 PM PDT by sinkspur
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To: Jerry_M
The reason why you cannot is due to the fact that you haven't a clue as to what Jesus actually said, only what you want Him to say. Here is what He actually said:

[...] (Matthew 3:7-12)

In other words, Jesus warned of the judgment to come, just as Jonathan Edwards did.

Um...no, John the Baptist warned of the judgment to come. Take a look at that passage again. John the Baptist is speaking, and refers to Jesus when he says "he who is coming after me."

Jesus doesn't come on the scene until the verse immediately after the passage you quoted.

Sorry...

55 posted on 09/17/2001 12:32:57 PM PDT by Barak
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To: Jerry_M
Re: #24. Ironically Aaron Burr, a reprobate if there ever was one, a murderer in his heart and in deed. was Edward's grandson.
223 posted on 09/17/2001 5:44:48 PM PDT by RobbyS
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