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To: Coyote
I wish I could be as high-hearted as you about the prospects for a Gramscian setback. IMO, for capturing political agendas and channeling and accelerating social change, nothing works better than war.

Consider this, from the English Catholic novelist Evelyn Waugh:

"It is too simple to say that only the Nazis wanted war. These communists wanted it too. It was the only way in which they could come to power. Many of my people wanted it, to be revenged on the Germans, to hasten the creation of the national state. It seems there was a will to war a death wish, everywhere. Even good men thought that their private honour would be satisfied by war. They could assert their manhood by killing and being killed. They would accept hardship in recompense for having been selfish and lazy. Danger justified privilege."

58 posted on 09/17/2001 7:07:34 AM PDT by Romulus
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To: Romulus
I wish I could be as high-hearted as you about the prospects for a Gramscian setback. IMO, for capturing political agendas and channeling and accelerating social change, nothing works better than war.

Well, the point I was trying to make is that it's too late to do a damn thing about it. We're in it, and if we don't win, we all die. At least they want us to believe that, and they may well be right, beyond the cynicism. I honestly believe this was a surprise for all but the core insiders. The average CFR member seems to still be in shock.

As far as the Gramcian's, they're still busy mouthing off, but as I pointed out in my longer post above, this time it's them that's being shouted down, not only by people like us, but by the power elite that supported them for so long. I'm convinced the elites are deeply concerned about this situation, regardless of who is actually behind it. They can't afford fragmentation. Week before last they couldn't wait to bring down all vestiges of national borders, pretending the sovereign nation-state was dead. Now the borders are sealed completely, and even political organs like the media are nudging for the Gramscians to shut the f*ck up, EVEN on MTV!

My point is that if the elites are telling them to cool it, they're going to have to cool it. Meanwhile, among all the bad news, the good news is that it's open season on Gramscian propagandists. While that window is open, and given we know what they've done, what they stand for, and even if we loose in the final analysis, wouldn't we be remiss if we didn't harass them with all we've got?

Whether this war is a product of neglect or duplicity is not really relevant to our ideological survival. Young men will probably soon die everwhere, which will galvanize the national theme, and that alone will not be a particularly good thing for the globalists. I'm convinced it's a setback. The purpose they had in allowing and supporting the culturally divisive Gramscians was to weaken our national resolve, in order to move the world toward a global hegemony. But now the elites need nationalism again, and unity, and a solid cultural ideal if they expect to defeat a billion religious ideologs willing to die to take out anyone who they perceive as an enemy of their notion of culture. The Gramscians are divisive. So the elites themselves are shouting them down.

After this war, there will be a new thrust and a new UN or something like that. Why not join in. It's the first time in my life I can do it and not only do I not get opposition from the globalist elite crew, but support! I'm not completely naieve about the long term. All I'm saying is that this past week has been better for Gramci baggers than any in the past 50 years. So the cup's half full, and I'm naturally a pessimist.

My suggestion is to look for them in any way that suits your disposition, skill, and personal situation. Hunt them down, and kill them on the spot (figureatively, of course!).


59 posted on 09/17/2001 8:10:24 AM PDT by Coyote
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