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Any conservative who believes that the function of journalism is objective truth-telling is deluded. Such was I, for more years than I care to admit to. Journalism is entertainment. It is negative and superficial, and as such it is anticonservative. It makes no constitutional sense for the government to define "public airwaves" and then to allow and even encourage the form of political discussion known as journalism by its favored licensees. The Internet is a far, far better venue for political argument because it is far less regulated.
1 posted on 09/14/2001 7:02:19 AM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion
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949 posted on 01/08/2006 12:09:43 PM PST by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric cartman voice* “I love you guys”)
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958 posted on 01/12/2006 11:49:44 AM PST by Sister_T (Kenneth Blackwell for Governor of Ohio!)
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"The framers of our Constitution gave carte blance protection to “speech” and “the press”."

Not true. It has simply been twisted and maligned by special interest groups. All must be taken in context. The framers of our constitution were not, nut cases... Freedom of the press & speech were never designed to include infringing upon someone else's rights. I'm thinking this has happened because people have been lured into thinking it's okay to be rude, mean, nasty, slandering, and on and on and on...We have slipped, pretty far away, from freedom of speech & press. Currently, freedom of speech & press means, freedom to slander anyone, at any time, for any reason. I mean, come on...That's just lawlessness!


963 posted on 01/20/2006 2:00:13 PM PST by Mrs. Darla Ruth Schwerin
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Actually, the function of juornalism IS objective truth-telling. But journalists have been failing to function for many, many years.


970 posted on 01/30/2006 6:00:04 AM PST by MortMan (There is no substitute for victory.)
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Any conservative who believes that the function of journalism is objective truth-telling . . .

The function of journalism is objective truth-telling. The point your trying to make is that just because someone or something claims to be practicing it, doesn't mean that he/she/it is.

Further, I would not call the alphabet news program either journalism or entertainment. What they practice is propaganda. ABCNNBCBS is no different that the Pravada or TASS during the Soviet era.

974 posted on 01/30/2006 8:42:55 AM PST by Tribune7
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The big 3 lost me when the latest cast off from Big Brother or Survivor became 'NEWS'.

They call it "synergy", I call it prostituting my trust.

989 posted on 02/04/2006 3:06:22 AM PST by ChadGore (VISUALIZE 62,041,268 Bush fans. We Vote.)
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conservatism_IS_compassion: The Internet is a far, far better venue for political argument because it is far less regulated.
One glance at DU demonstrates that. :')
1,002 posted on 02/12/2006 7:10:54 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Islam is medieval fascism, and the Koran is a medieval Mein Kampf.)
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Journalism is the business of attracting attention by the use of topical nonfiction. So while most of life, for most people, is muddling through mundane problems and earning a living, in the artificial reality of journalism most of the discussion is about unusual - primarily unusually bad things.

"The trouble with ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN and that crowd ( They JUST HAVE to look for bad news)
WorldnetDaily.com ^ | 03/14/2006 | Jim Rutz


1,012 posted on 03/14/2006 3:54:47 PM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion (The idea around which liberalism coheres is that NOTHING actually matters but PR.)
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1,013 posted on 03/14/2006 4:05:54 PM PST by Christian4Bush (I'd much rather hunt with Dick Cheney than ride with Ted Kennedy.)
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Thirty or thirty five years ago we naively wondered when they would get around to our side of the story. But by now, few Freepers are in any doubt that "the MSM" is an identifiable, monolithic-behaving institution. And I flatter myself that I have been in the vanguard of the effort to understand "bias in the media."

Not that I taught Reed Irvine anything - back in the 1970s I read his Accuracy In Media (AIM) report assiduously for a year or two - but while he and others have stayed fixated on trying to get "the media" to "do their job" I have moved on. We-the-people have to grow up and understand that "objective journalism" is the Wizard of Oz - it is all image and no substance other than "a man behind a curtain."

The job of the man people behind the curtain is not to impart truth, it is to maintain the image of "The Great and Powerful Oz." Or in this case, the wise and objective media. The reason that maps to "liberalism" is quite simple - "liberalism" is simply political expression of the idea that nothing actually matters but PR. The "liberalism" of journalism is not being in the pocket of the Democrats" - it is the other way around. Liberal politicians say what journalists are thinking - naturally journalists approve of it.

"Liberalism" is simply contempt for society, and the arrogation of the right to speak for society. The particular part of society for which liberalism presumes to speak via the publicizing of the opinions of the six retired generals just happens to be the active military.

The Generals' Dangerous Whispers
Washington Post ^ | 4/21/06 | Charles Krauthammer


1,018 posted on 04/21/2006 7:52:08 AM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (The idea around which liberalism coheres is that NOTHING actually matters but PR.)
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journalism is a 'finished' entertainment package. These people have a license to make or destroy whomever they choose. They made Dan Quayle out to be a imbecile. They made John Edwards out to be a saint, to a lot of dems. They evey try to repackage John 'flip flop' Kerry almost succeeded.


1,021 posted on 05/07/2006 5:50:07 AM PDT by television is just wrong (Our sympathies are misguided with illegal aliens...)
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The money in the business of journalism is in entertainment, not truth.

Some say the business is in subscriptions and some say it is in advertising. For broadcast journalism, since there are no subscriptions but patrons, it is an art.

1,028 posted on 05/15/2006 7:27:38 AM PDT by RightWhale (Off touch and out of base)
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Your comments are true. The claim of impartial, unbiased truthtelling has as much weight as we give it. Is it really anything more than a marketing claim?


1,036 posted on 05/25/2006 5:40:38 AM PDT by gogeo (The /sarc tag is a form of training wheels for those unable to discern intellectual subtlety.)
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On the 25th of June last, just after 1200 noon, Wolf Blitzer of CNN "interviewed" President Hamid Karzai. I was prepared for some direct and testing questioning by Blitzer.

What followed, was an outpouring of negative quotes about the state of Afghanistan. So far so good. Blitzer would not give much of a breathing space to President Karzai. He then quoted "NewsWeek". The old cliches of "open sewage" and "lack of electricity" were directed at the President.

President Karzai was obviously under pressure. He then reminded Mr Blitzer that "NewsWeek" people only "came for a day". The President observed, "then they leave us with the consequences". The President informed a reluctant Blitzer, that there is now democracy in his country. He mentioned the doubling of the gross annual income.

Wolf seems not to have heard of the vile, brutal Taliban. After all, what Afghanistan suffers today, must be small potatoes, compared with the reign of the Taliban.

On my way for morning coffee, it suddenly dawned on me (surprise, surprise) what Blitzer was all about. I was reminded of the attitude of an employer. The one who got up Monday morning disgruntled. He hauls in an employee. He has to observed civilize niceties though. Yet, he can scarcely restrain his ire.

Many of us have been that employee. I have it.

Blitzer talked down to the President in this fashion. The utter arrogance of the man, the absolute lack of professionalism. Now,sadly taken for "solid journalism".

1,047 posted on 06/27/2006 9:09:14 AM PDT by Peter Libra
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1,052 posted on 07/05/2006 9:41:24 AM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (!st Amendment: We can't trust ANYONE to control the public discourse.)
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This guy's conclusions are pretty much wrong. To modern journalists, "news" has nothing to do with the timeliness of a subject, and everything to support what they feel is important.


1,056 posted on 07/07/2006 6:20:57 AM PDT by Frumious Bandersnatch
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I'll start off admitting that I haven't read through the entire thread.

Regarding your point - I essentially agree. I think what ticks off conservatives (and me) is when the journalists claim that they/their paper/network etc. are objective truth tellers AND people buy it.

I work with "educated" teachers who, for the most part, are convinced that NPR and the NYT are very very fair. I concede to them that FOX etc. is not 100% objective, but they are unable to see their own bias. Goldberg's book - Bias - although I thought it weakly written - presents the spot on theory that libs don't see themselves as biased - they're just right thinking! LOL

1,058 posted on 07/13/2006 6:47:48 AM PDT by Scarchin (+)
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I always assumed the MSM was the government mouth piece. If true, we are witnessing a coup, so far it has failed.


1,080 posted on 08/14/2006 2:04:23 AM PDT by John Lenin
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1,088 posted on 09/04/2006 6:33:17 PM PDT by Coleus (I Support Research using the Ethical, Effective and Moral use of stem cells: non-embryonic "adult")
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I wish the President would put a stop to the daily press briefings. They encourage the media pimps to use the actions of our government to be nothing more than a prop for their industry.

Look at FOX for example, where almost every program must have Gender Representation, Race Representation, and Intelligence Representation!
1,127 posted on 10/21/2006 5:00:45 PM PDT by leprechaun9
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