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Message from Serbia to grieving Americans
WorldNetDaily.com | September 13,2001 | Aleksandar Pavich

Posted on 09/13/2001 11:10:46 PM PDT by branicap

Message from Serbia to grieving Americans

By Aleksandar Pavic

© 2001 WorldNetDaily.com

According to the Julian Calendar used by the Christian Orthodox Church in Serbia, September 11 is one of four "Days of the Cross" observed during the year, calling for strict fasting and prayer. This specific Day of the Cross is devoted to the Beheading of St. John the Baptist, and one is not supposed to wear anything of red color, in piety for the innocent blood spilled on that day. The fact that the new American Day of Infamy occurred on the Day of the Cross observed by the oldest Christian church cannot be an accident.

Living in Serbia and feeling great piety for the innocent blood spilled in America on that same day, one cannot help but remember the innocent blood spilled during the NATO bombing of Yugoslavia in 1999, or the innocent blood spilled during the preceding wars of the Yugoslav secession. Because, whenever great human disasters happen, one needs to think of one fundamental question: Why?

Living through the war, sanctions and all the real or imagined injustices that can be brought upon a country during the past 10 years have given many here in Serbia a chance to reflect on the reasons. Actually, it has taught many the necessity to look for reasons and the lesson that nothing happens without a reason. If one has learned anything, it has been that such stock answers as "madness" or "insanity" or "evil" just aren't adequate. Even more so, if one has learned anything, it is that finger-pointing isn't the ultimate answer either. Ultimately, free men and free nations cannot accept the notion that the causes of their fortunes or misfortunes lie outside of themselves.

The Serbs were not able to gain their freedom from communism on October 5, 2000, until they found the strength in sufficient numbers to look within and recognize the true nature of the shackles that were binding them from without. Americans will regain their true, God-given freedom and strength only when they do the same in sufficient numbers.

The Serbs' problem was the fact that real, eternal Serbia was hijacked from them, and made to stand for things it was not under former president Milosevich. That, of course, had its own roots as well – roots that go back decades. The point is, especially during the years of Clinton, that the real, eternal America has been hijacked from the Americans and made to stand for things it is not. Serbia's punishment from Above came in the ensuing 10 years of war, sanctions, international pariah status and poverty. It started with the killing of innocents on all sides.

Regrettably, America's turn for punishment has arrived, and it has also started with the killing of innocents. The evil sent out by Clinton unfortunately had a return address. Those that doubt such things as cosmic punishment need only come to Belgrade and look at the similarity in architecture between the NATO-bombed CK tower and the WTC buildings, or drive by the ruins of the Army General Staff Headquarters in the center of Belgrade and think of the Pentagon building now.

Speaking from a Balkan perspective, the following questions may be asked:

Was it the real America that encouraged Muslim fundamentalists in Bosnia to turn down a peace plan that would have prevented a bloody civil war from breaking out in 1992?

Was it the real America that armed and logistically supported Croat neo-fascists in cleansing the last 250,000 Serbs from Croatia in 1995?

Was it the real America that instigated and led the 78-day bombing of Yugoslavia, a country on which it never officially declared war, in order to help Muslim Albanian fundamentalists cleanse several hundred-thousand Serbs from their spiritual cradle, Kosovo – and is it the real America that is now helping these same Albanians expand their narcotic and white-slavery empire to neighboring Macedonia, all in the name of "human rights"?

If this was and is the real America, then the Americans should listen to the shrill voices directing them to lash out in all directions and bomb all their enemies into submission. If that is the real America, then the Americans should stay true to this new identity to the end and take all the ensuing consequences of choosing such a course.

However, if the real America is somewhere else, buried in the Federalist Papers, George Washington's Farewell Address and the innocence and wise practicality of its pre-Empire days, then those who still feel its presence under the debris need to reclaim it as quickly as they can. Otherwise, the days of punishment have only just begun. Perhaps Serbia's own road of disaster may be instructive of what happens to those who forget what they are.

Serbia voluntarily gave up its identity in 1918 and let itself be absorbed into a physically larger, multi-ethnic entity called "Yugoslavia." The Serb leaders gradually gave up their Christian Orthodox identity – they forgot their religion and values in the name of abstract "tolerance." They forgot their historical roots and started calling themselves "Yugoslavs." And, worse, they started acting as "Yugoslavs," disregarding true, natural Serb interests and strivings for the sake of an abstract entity. (The abstract identity being imposed upon the Americans at present is that of the "international community," under whose guise America has turned into a cynical Empire-builder with guiding lights no higher than those of raw power and ephemeral economic interest.)

Punishment for Serbia came in several stages: First, the architect of Yugoslavia, King Alexander Karadjordjevich, was assassinated by anti-Yugoslav secessionists in 1934.

Second, the country was invaded by Nazi Germany on April 6, 1941, and defeated after only 12 days, after its multi-ethnic army disintegrated and most of its non-Serb elements went over to the side of the Axis.

Third, a genocide of Serbs ensued at the hands of these same former countrymen.

Fourth, a communist insurgency broke out as well and was eventually brought to power near the end of World War II by the Allies (yes, the Allies) who were guided by their own interests of the moment. These communists, led by Josip Broz Tito, reconstituted Yugoslavia and partitioned the Serbs into as many smaller political entities as possible.

Fifth, 40 years later, when the Berlin Wall fell, the other non-Serbs took advantage of the situation, seceded and carried away as much Serb-inhabited territory as they could. At the same time, the Serbs were stuck with a former Party apparatchik, Slobodan Milosevich, who took up a false mantle of Serb nationalism only to keep himself in power, and who brought the Serbs international pariah status, war, sanctions, poverty and crime.

When it most needed to be heard, the voice of the true Serbia could not be heard. And the worst that could possibly happen kept happening and no decent Serb seemed to be able to do anything about it. Such are the nature of curses that one brings upon oneself. They tie one's hands when one most needs them and take away all control over one's actions and choices. Just like that.

The Serbs' decades-long wandering through the spiritual desert of their own making finally ended in October of last year, when more than a half million Serbs took to the streets and said, "Enough! Serbia is not Milosevich, Serbia is not Communism, Serbia is not isolation, Serbia is not sanctions, Serbia is not an abstraction." Now the battle for reclaiming Serbia has just begun. It took decades of war, genocide, tyranny, more war and loss of land for Serbs to realize that one cannot, in the long run, be anything other than what one truly is. It was a punishment that hurt terribly and swept away hundreds of thousands of innocent lives.

Milosevich was not the cause of the national misfortune, he was only the last instrument of a decades-long punishment, the last wake-up call. Perhaps Clinton can be looked at in an analogous way: He was the chief architect of the American loss of identity and straying, and the criminals that carried out the Day of the Cross carnage in America were the brutal instruments of the ensuing punishment. One can only hope that what George Bush does next will be the first step on the road back – a road which is now blocked by the legacy of the years past, a legacy America needs to learn to overcome, as quickly as possible.

The message for Americans is: Start digging through the debris, not only for the bodies of the dead, God rest their souls, but for the roots of what you really are and have lost. Once you find yourselves, you'll find your enemies. They are the same enemies as that of eternal, awakened, Christian Orthodox Serbia – who is waiting patiently for you to rejoin the ranks, as American-aided fundamentalist terrorists continue gnawing at its southern flank.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Aleksandar Pavic a U.C. Berkeley graduate, quit his job and went back to Yugoslavia in 1990 to take part in ending 50 years of communist rule in Serbia. During the past decade, he has worked as a member of the Serbian opposition, gone through the war in the formerly Serb parts of Croatia and in Bosnia, coordinated aid efforts and served as a senior presidential adviser in the Serbian entity in Bosnia. He is presently working as an investment consultant in Belgrade and has almost completed writing a novel entitled, "Prince of the Balkans."


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To: Robert Drobot
"...American government armed drug dealing mafia Muslims ( KLA ) to wage their 'holy' war against the Christian religion..."

Lets be specific:
komrade krintoon armed these islamic-maniacs to do their part in the globalists' war on those who would be the most unwilling to yield to their despotism:
In other words, Christians.

61 posted on 09/14/2001 11:36:00 PM PDT by NoClones
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To: CWOJackson...FYI you are supporting the terrorist acts of NATO and their Muslim allies.
You stated...."I do not have any desire to count people who would offer excuses for these cowards as friends. Far from it, I assure you, they are my enemy. "

You must be on stupid pills. The USG/NATO are supporting the KLA. The KLA are muslim terrorists. Our bombing of Serbia was a terrorist act. Get it?

Didn't think so. Just say you were wrong, you were insensitive, inconsiderate, selfish and patheticly stupid and you are sorry. That way you will be covered until it soaks in.

62 posted on 09/14/2001 11:51:09 PM PDT by eazdzit (Terrorists are financed by drug money. Take the money out of drug dealing@legalize drugs.com)
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To: eazdzit
You want something to soak in? How about the blood of thousands of innocent people in New York, Pennsylvania and Washington, DC. That's the only damned thing that is soaking in that I care about.

You can whine, cry and dance all you want. You have absolutely no clue how I felt about the bombing in Serbia when it was going on. But that really doesn't matter because my only concern is with what has happened here and now.

There is no excuse for what took place Tuesday morning. You can try to twist and turn previous events all you want, they will never excuse the evil that visited those innocent people. So save your sob stories about the innocent people in Serbia, the KLA Antarctica or anything/anywhere else...I don't care a damned about them right now.

You wallow in your guilt/hate or whatever. Hell, go help the Serbs rebuild if you want...just don't lay you we deserved it shit on me. I don't buy it.

63 posted on 09/15/2001 12:00:47 AM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: CWOJackson...I said that?....Why do you think we should be supporting the KLA?
I don't think we deserved it either. But we damm well better make up our mind about who our enemies are.

As far as your holier than thou Bull. You don't fool anybody. You are pathetic.

64 posted on 09/15/2001 12:10:17 AM PDT by eazdzit (Ethics are preached, not practiced by some posters@FreeRepublic.com)
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To: eazdzit
I'm not trying to fool anyone...in fact, I'm being very straight up. If some Serb thinks we had it coming, F#*K them. If you think we had it coming, F*#k, you. If that isn't plain enough for you I don't know a better way to explain it...but you can believe I'm not trying to fool you, I really mean the sentiment.
65 posted on 09/15/2001 12:19:18 AM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: CWOJackson....OK CW try to focus on the issue I am addressing.
I already told you I don't think we deserved it. What are you trying to do get the thread pulled?

When we declare war, who will it be against? Muslims, muslim terrorists, all terrorists etc.

Now pay attention. How do we exclude the KLA?

66 posted on 09/15/2001 12:46:28 AM PDT by eazdzit (Terrorists are financed by drug money. Take the money out of drug dealing@legalize drugs.com)
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To: eazdzit
"When we declare war, who will it be against? Muslims, muslim terrorists, all terrorists etc."

Strange range of choices you make for yourself. The religion practised by the terrorists who commited the acts is of no concern to me. My only concern is that they receive justice that is unemotionally deliberate, utter complete and without mercy.

"Now pay attention. How do we exclude the KLA?"

Perhaps you should pay attention, I don't give a damn about the KLA unless we discover that they were responsible for the acts of violence against this nation Tuesday morning.

67 posted on 09/15/2001 12:53:56 AM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: NoClones
Regarding post # 61:

You're preaching to the choir.

What kind of luck do you think you can expect from the fowl mind of CWO.

68 posted on 09/15/2001 1:38:58 AM PDT by Robert Drobot
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To: eazdzit
My mother taught me many valuable lessons over the years. One of the best was, "If you come across a sick mind, leave it alone". This horrible tragedy that happened on Tuesday seems to have really shaken America's trees and more than a few nuts have fallen out and landed on computer keyboards. They should be watched very carefully but not engaged with. You can't reason with a sick mind. We should probably just leave this very sad and weak minded character alone. Obviously the anger and heartache he now feels has unhinged his mind.
70 posted on 09/15/2001 4:27:03 AM PDT by getoffmylawn
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To: Hannibal Heyes
Perhaps you didn't get the message either, I don't give a damned about that, and as far as people who are trying to make excuses for the killing of our people, F*#K Off!

Are you getting the message?

71 posted on 09/15/2001 10:38:25 AM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: getoffmylawn
You folks are laughable...making excuses for those making excuses for those who killed our people.

Funny you should mention sick minds...obviously a term you have heard before I'm sure. Too late to leave it alone boyo.

72 posted on 09/15/2001 11:09:53 AM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: CWOJackson
Perhaps you should pay attention, I don't give a damn about the KLA unless we discover that they were responsible for theacts of violence against this nation Tuesday morning.

In response to your earlier and typically pathetic attempt at understanding Serbo-Croat, the best insult is one whose target doesn't even realize it is such. Dolts like you are so fun to mess with.

In regards to your above directly quoted statement, other than it again proves that when you open your mouth you subtract from the sum of human knowledge, maybe you should pay attention and ought to give a damn about the Albanian Moslem KLA as well as the Moslems the Russians have been battling in Chechnya (both the KLA and the Chechen "freedom fighters" staffed with bin-Laden's goons.)

Again, why should you pay attention? Because the US government that is supposedly claiming to have declared war on radical Islam everywhere is still supporting these Moslem groups (directly or indirectly) against the Serbs, Macedonians and Russians who are trying to get rid of that same radical Moslem infestation in their homelands. The Orthodox Christian Slavs (Russians, Serbs, Macedonians, Bulgars) have been on the front lines fighting against these swarms of maniacs for some 1,000 years, and we are deliberately hamstringing them.

Addled? Speak for yourself! It's brainless bozos and clueless "beer commercial patriots" like you who think international relations are just some kind of glorified mix of B-grade war movies and the Super Bowl who're the perfect chumps for any hustlers who talk a good line--be they from Washington or those Moslems who, as the Serbs say, "buy a hatchet from you at sunrise and bury it in your back at sunset."

An example: Look at all of the weapons, money and training we stupidly provided bin-Laden because he was some self-proclaimed "freedom fighter" against the USSR in the 1980s. We piled arms on Iran and financially supported Saddam Hussein. We gave all of them hatchets and, true to form, they eventually buried them in our backs. Now, we're going to make the same damn mistake with Pakistan; already we're kissing up to this diehard radical Moslem nation (and a nuclear power to boot) that is also a close ally of China and one that India (a rising power the US has foolishly ignored for too long) has been trying to cope with for a half-century. We are being conned once again.

73 posted on 09/15/2001 11:20:45 AM PDT by MK
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To: MK
Being conned? No, we recognize people like you for who and what you are. Please take your message out onto the streets of America so you can be properly rewarded.
74 posted on 09/15/2001 11:28:08 AM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: MK
"These terrorists had plans of taking out our Whitehouse, the Capitol Building, the Pentagon, our financial district, Air Force One, and God only knows what else. They were aiming to kill the President, the Vice President, the leaders of the House and Senate, and knock out our military chain of command and disrupt our financial markets. And they came dangerously close to pulling it off. As it is, they killed or injured untold thousands of Americans and totally destroyed the World Trade Center. Now if you want to wimper like a whipped pup while thousands of your fellow Americans lay bleeding, crushed and dying and talk about not defending our country when we are on the verge of World War III, then that's your business. But you may kindly keep your insults, personal attacks, profanity, anti-Semitism and downright unAmerican and cowardly statements off our board or get the hell out. And that goes for all the creeps who I see posting a bunch of cowardly crap lately. Thank you very much." --Jim Robinson

In case you missed it the first time.

75 posted on 09/15/2001 11:30:27 AM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: CWOJackson
Being conned? No, we recognize people like you for who and what you are. Please take your message out onto the streets of America so you can be properly rewarded.

All right, Gruppenfuehrer, suit yourself. Stupid is as stupid does. You're a perfect example of our public education system and the pathology of sucking the taxpayer tit your entire life. Brain dead. Completely.

Gotta do everything in groups, eh? "We" this and "we" that. Just like the Moslems. Never had an original thought in your life, so it's unsurprising you gleefully welcome to Reichskanzler Robinson's recent "Enabling Act." If JimRob told you to jump off the Brooklyn Bridge in the interests of national security, would you do it? Probably. And a witling like you will gladly pay a pretty penny to JimRob for the privilege. Who is using whom, slick? Only fools fight in burning houses--and FR seems infested with this sort of fool the past couple of years.

Free Republic is dead, as far as free speech (the lifeblood of any free society anywhere) goes and so is our Republic, thanks to swarms of useless middlebrowed goons like you who, like Bill Clinton (obsessed with power and delusions of relevance) think the Bill of Rights is something that exists or is ignored at the convenience of our leaders. We're unwittingly becoming an "Islamic republic" because in reaction to this tragedy, we are foolishly imitating these Moslems' fanatical methods that are standard procedure in those countries--anyone who looks different or thinks differently is smeared or killed. That is what they want. And their getting it.

I know this is light-years beyond your comprehension level, but did it ever occur to you, as it had to Chronicles Magazine's Dr. Srdja Trifkovich long ago, exactly why our "leaders" of today kiss Islamic ass so much? Islam suits their purposes for more power, because it has as its bread and butter mindless obedience, no concept of individual conscience, hatred of dissent, encouragement of deceit and a fanatical willingness to die for anything they are told to die for. Just the ticket for totalitarians anywhere. Heinrich Himmler adored Islam too, he created an SS division of Bosnian Moslems in WWII called the Handzhars, one of the most bloodthirsty groups of killers ever. Sound familiar?

A society becomes totalitarian because it's thoughtless creeps like you who aid in its success, the "second-raters," as Ayn Rand termed clowns like you. Like Peter Keating in The Fountainhead and dead fish, you thoughtlessly go along the current to get along. These Moslems, JimRob, and our own government have really conned you. They really have. To the max. And you are just too stupid to see it.

76 posted on 09/15/2001 12:40:16 PM PDT by MK
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To: MK
You seem very well versed in your Nazi history...my family was only well versed in removing them from the face of this earth. My family is ready to remove the latest threat to our society...anytime, anywhere.
77 posted on 09/15/2001 2:58:03 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: CWOJackson
You seem very well versed in your Nazi history...

Well, one has to know one's enemy. You sure fit the bill.

...,my family was only well versed in removing them from the face of this earth.

Yeah, right.

My family is ready to remove the latest threat to our society...anytime, anywhere.

Like gun owners, right, Deputy, after all you RKBA views are much like Clinton's? I quote you from a 1999 thread on the WTO demonstrations in Seattle, "I don't have to worry about gun confiscation because I am on my local sheriff's department which will be doing the confiscating."

78 posted on 09/15/2001 3:28:02 PM PDT by MK
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To: MK
Very impressive how you keep records on people. All your records and searching and this is all you could come up with?

Perhaps you should enlighten all the readers on how this comment was sarcasim aimed at one of your paranoid delusional friends screaming that the latest (fill in the blank) was just a government ploy to take away our weapons.

Unfortunately I don't know how much longer I will be with the Sheriff's department; I am expecting a recall to active duty if the situation warrants. I'm ready to answer my nation's call yet again. You do have one thing right, I know who my enemies are; foreign and domestic.

79 posted on 09/15/2001 4:05:13 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: getoffmylawn...Thanks.. I agree.. I think maybe CW has an agenda as well.
BTTT.
80 posted on 09/15/2001 6:41:45 PM PDT by eazdzit (Terrorists are financed by drug money. Take the money out of drug dealing@legalize drugs.com)
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