OSAMA BIN LADEN SAID TO HAVE NUKES - Terrorists With Suitcases

WorldnetDaily ^ | April 28, 2001 | By Jon Dougherty

[Askel5]

Sometimes it's as if you can hear the questions I'm asking. Thanks Uncle Bill.

[68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub]

God, Please Bless America and guide and help unite our nation in this troubled time.
Please Welcome Home those who have lost their lives.
Please comfort those who lost their family members and friends.
Please bless and comfort those who are injured.
Please bless and protect those who are helping the injured.
Please bless and protect our military and law enforcement.

Now is the time for ALL true Americans to UNITE and stand behind President Bush!
Any political debates can take place AFTER this crisis is handled.
UNITED WE STAND, DIVIDED WE FALL

God Bless America!
What We as Americans Can Do
1) Pray
2) Give blood and whatever else the Red Cross calls for.
3) Support our military and law enforcement.

And Finally:
HUNT DOWN AND PUBLICLY EXECUTE
THOSE RESPONSIBLE BY HANGING!

AND MAKE EXAMPLES OF THOSE WHO HIDE AND/OR SUPPORT THEM
BY MAKING THEM EAT PIG INTESTINES AND FLOGGING THEM IN PUBLIC!

[Uncle Bill]

Dead men tell no tales -- Part 2
"Softwar has obtained an exclusive interview with former GRU Colonel Stanislav Lunev. Col. Lunev is the highest-ranking member of the former Soviet Union intelligence services to defect to America. He is, to this day, surrounded by FBI agents for his protection.

In 1999, I presented the K.S. Wu information to Colonel Lunev for his evaluation. According to Col. Lunev, Russian and Chinese army operatives in the U.S. have created large stockpiles of arms for use in time of war. These communist weapon caches are reportedly hidden all over America. According to Lunev, the Chinese and Russian weapon stockpiles include explosives, nerve gas, anthrax and as many as 120 "suitcase" nuclear bombs!

I have confirmed Colonel Lunev's story with several members of Congress. Red China and Russia have pre-positioned nuclear, chemical and biological weapons on American soil with the intent of destroying our nation. President Clinton and Congress are aware that China and Russia have smuggled nuclear bombs into the United States."

Col. David Hackworth
"In fact, since the Soviet Union stroked out, it's no longer a question of if WMD will be used on Main Street USA, but rather when. Suitcase-size nukes capable of doing a Hiroshima or Nagasaki and other mass weapons of horror according to several sources have already become the newest, trendiest terrorist tool.

Is the Pentagon ready for superterrorism? They move their lips about it, but it's not the highest priority. As usual, they're preparing for the last war, Desert Storm. Except for a few maverick thinkers, the Washington establishment is brain-dead or into deep denial.

In 1995, a Pentagon study called Terror 2000 predicted the wave of terrorism we're now seeing. The report was buried by presidential aides who didn't want to panic the people. The White House view was, if we don't talk about it, maybe it'll go away. Unfortunately, many of predictions featured in this comprehensive report have already occurred."

[Askel5]

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A quick quote from p. 260 of Kluckhohn's 1962 book The Naked Rise of Communism

Business in Britain, Canada and the United States and other free nations must realize that it is trading to destroy itself. In any case, the U.S. government should halt all trade with the Soviet Union, Red China and the Red satellite nations. We can politely and firmly tell our Allies that they will get no help from us, and no backing, if they do not cease this trading. Our poor diplomatic poker players have been euchred into making one concessoin after another on industrial trade items and, in their eagerness to please, are prepared to make more the moment no one is looking.

The story is told that two Russian Communists were talking. "The United States?" said one, "Bah! We have 10,000 little nuclear bombs. We put them in suitcases and carry them into the United States. And poof, we blow it up." "Wonderful," said the other Russian, "Why aren't we doing it?" "Because," was the mournful reply, "we don't have the suitcases."

The suitcase thing rings sort of weird nearly 40 years later, no?

No more so, I suppose, than another golden oldie on my shelves: You Can Always Trust the Communists to be Communists!

57 Posted on 09/07/2000 20:17:24 PDT by Askel5
[ Hear No Evil, See No Evil, Speak No Evil ]

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[cgbg]

Good post.

Game theory is dead on point here. Game theory with imperfect information is even more on point.

But how do you explain the complexities of game theory to an emotional American public?

The problem is the more we rant about how "right"we are and how "wrong" "they" are the more political pressure is created to make a stupid move.

I want retribution--but I would like to hit the right target at the right time with the right results. Let the Clintons of the world attack aspirin factories--I wanted some corpses of people who finance and supply the infrastructure for the terrorist groups who have the capability and intention of delivering "little suitcases" into our back-yard, as well as making sure the individual terrorists get to meet Allah a little sooner than they had planned.

Equally critical is internal security within the government decision-making process. That means those folks who could be subject to blackmail cannot be permitted to be "in the loop".

At times like these the media jackals will have to be fed a pack of lies--the only question is which lies--another game theory question.

[Uncle Bill]

Thanks. How about that free-trade. LOL!

China Strengthens Ties With Taleban by Signing Economic Deal - September 13, 2001
"In a sign of Beijing's increasingly close ties with the Taleban regime in Afghanistan, China has signed a memorandum of understanding for economic and technical cooperation with Kabul, press reports from Afghanistan and Pakistan said.

The agreement was reported Tuesday, the same day terrorists hijacked four planes in the United States and drove them into the World Trade Center and the Pentagon. A Chinese delegation signed the deal in Kabul with the Taleban's minister of mining, Mullah Mohammed Ishaq, the news reports said.

China's agreement with the Taleban is the most substantial part of a series of contacts that Beijing has had with Afghanistan over the last two years. Of all non-Muslim countries, Beijing now has the best relationship with the isolated regime in Kabul in the world, a senior Western diplomat said."

Trading With "The Enemy"

[Inspector Harry Callahan]

Bump.

[TightSqueeze]

So basically, you're willing to attempt to destroy 400 million Muslims and most certainly end up destroying the United States of America as well, for the sole purpose of ensuring that Ariel Sharon can continue his moral posturing.

Only a foreign disrupter schooled in anti-American rhetoric would be able to cobble together such a confused statement. Be gone.

[Cvengr]

Game theory, maneuver warfare, and revolutionary warfare theory ala Che Gueverra, methinks.

I wondered why Dubya framed the situation in the fashion he did. Seems to me that the perpetrators aren't characterized by cowering or likely to be intimidated, but he characterized them as seeking shadows. We seem to be taking the position that we are strong and won't let this rest without massive retaliation, but then it seems like we've set ourselves up to fulfill the intent of those using terrorist tactics. Display to the world a newsworthy event, focus all attention on it, them leave an establishment to appear incapable to control events. Seems like we're just setting ourselves up for another hit.

[DittoJed2]

Switzerland, the United States, Iraq, France, Great Britain, Syria, and every other nation will be judged by the Lord God Almighty. He has said in His Word regarding Israel, "I will bless those who bless You and curse those who curse You." Just because God does not work in Your economy of timing does not mean it will not happen. He is true to His Word and Israel is the Apple of His eye. The nations will be judged. This does not mean that we have to support each and every thing Israel and her leaders have done, but we MUST support Israel. I have never supported her leadership when they have dared to try to broker "peace" with terrorists with the land of her birthright. The land is hers & she is God's. Those who betray her friendship will be judged with an awful judgment. Those who support her will be blessed. If you think America hasn't been blessed as a result of her friendship with Israel, You are blind and foolish. Israel has the right to exist and as long as this nation exists I pray that we will fight for her right to exist and support her as our friend. I also pray for wise rulers for her, for her enemies are many - just as ours are.

[Uncle Bill]

Terrorist Nuke Bomb Data on Hard Drives Missing from Los Alamos
"The LA Times reported that the missing hard drives at Los Alamos contained data on Chinese, French, and Russian nuclear devices that was to be used by US NEST groups to disarm these devices if used by terrorists. This report implies that the devices would be small suitcase nuke devices like neutron bombs or miniaturized nukes in order for terrorists to conceal and carry them."

[Uncle Bill]

WHEN AMERICA CLOSES ITS EYES TO TERROR
"And, in one bizarre - and audacious - twist, his aides pushed for American taxpayers to pick up the tab for court judgments against Tehran for its role in terrorist attacks against Americans."

From Russia, with bugs [US subsidizing Russian Biological Warfare Lab]

[Let's Roll]

Your scenario definitely has merit. BUT does he actually have a functioning nuclear device at this time? Not saying he doesn't have one in the shop - maybe only lacking a component or two, but still think if he had one that was ready he would have been more inclined to take out NYC and environs then wait and ambush American troops who may not even go in on the ground.

[Uncle Bill]

"Lunev explains war would begin with the infiltration of Russian special operations troops into the U.S., who would kill top political and military leaders. Lunev also warns that Russian GRU (military intelligence) agents have already deposited, near key water reservoirs, deadly poisons and toxins which would result in millions of civilians being ravaged by disease. Lunev says, for instance, that the Russians have determined that they could wipe out a significant part of the population of Florida by polluting water sources in the Carolinas....Lunev says he personally scouted a site in the Hudson Valley just above New York City for one such suitcase nuke." - Internet Vortex, Vol. 1 number 3 (January 1999)- Christopher Ruddy

KGB WEAPONS CACHES ACROSS U.S.
"On the floor of the House of Representatives last night, Representative Curt Weldon (Rep., Penn.) dropped a bombshell. He presented “chapter and verse” on underground caches of weapons and other implements of war the Soviet KGB secreted in underground storage locations across the United States and in western European Countries. The caches are still there today.

Weldon gave the names of several Russian sources for the information. Since this writer has not seen the names in print, no attempt will be made to use them in this article. The spelling would indubitably be wrong. However, the positions the sources held make their stories more than credible.

The main source of the information is a mountain of copies of documents spirited out of the Kremlin archives by a Russian defector, which were furnished to British intelligence in 1992. The documents spell out the general location of some of the caches in the U.S. but the information is not specific enough to lead to the actual locations. . However the defector was able to furnish specific locations of caches in Switzerland and Belgium.

Officials in those two countries found the underground sites (which, by the way, were booby trapped) and verified the storage of a range of weaponry, ammunition, and electronic communications equipment.

An open hearing was held in a House sub-committee about ten days ago at which several Russian sources testified as to the accuracy of the documents from the Kremlin archives. One was the highest ranked Russian defector to date, a former KGB station chief in London. Weldon stated his purpose in disclosing the information on the House floor was motivated by the fact that there had been no media coverage of that hearing.

Weldon expressed a concern that weapons hidden in the United States might include suitcase size nuclear devices in the one to ten kiloton ranges. (Ten kilotons is the size of the bombs dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki.) Several years ago, a story appeared in the media that Russia had “lost” a number of these nuclear devices and some speculated they might have been sold or transferred to “rogue” nations."
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Russia Loses Its Suitcase Nukes

The Electronic Telegraph
By Ivo Dawnay in Washington
November 9, 1997

The nightmare scenario of terrorists acquiring Russian suitcase-sized nuclear weapons took a dramatic turn last week when the Kremlin implicitly admitted that the bombs exist - and some may be missing. Until now, persistent rumours of the existence of the small, portable bombs have been vehemently denied by Moscow, with even Premier Viktor Chernomyrdin shrugging off the claims as an "absolute absurdity".

But The Telegraph has learned that Professor Alexei Yablokov, who first disclosed the existence of the sophisticated device, was quietly co-opted by the Russian Defence Council last week to devise new legislation to control the weapons.

On Thursday, he was secretly summoned to the Kremlin and ordered to help to draft a presidential decree to co-ordinate the location of "compact nuclear weapons", bring them under secure control, and arrange for their speedy destruction.

The Yeltsin government's decision to bring in the professor is a tacit admission that the suitcase bombs not only exist, but could be outside secure control and represent a genuine international security risk.

It was Prof Yablokov, a distinguished ecologist, academician and former special adviser to Boris Yeltsin, who first alerted the world to the danger posed by the bombs - ideal portable terrorist weapons. In October, he told a United States Congressional committee that he was "absolutely certain" they had been built as he had met someone involved in their construction.

This week he told The Telegraph that while there was "no certainty" that any of the bombs were unaccounted for, there were indeed "some suspicions". He said: "I won't say how many I think have gone missing - you will publish it and scare the whole world," he said. "It is a question of units, not dozens."

The Kremlin's decision to draft the professor represents a momentous U-turn. Only a week earlier, Prof Yablokov had issued an ultimatum to President Yeltsin, threatening to go public with technical details of the bombs if action were not taken immediately.

The Kremlin's decision also represents a personal triumph for US Congressman Curt Weldon. As chairman of the House of Representatives' National Security, in May, he disclosed that Gen Alexander Lebed had told him of his own concerns about suitcase nuclear weapons. Gen Lebed, who in his brief six months in government was charged by President Yeltsin to review nuclear security, said that only 48 out of 132 known bombs had been adequately accounted for.

He suspected that some of the weapons may have been built for the KGB by the Ministry of Atomic Energy without the knowledge of the Defence Ministry. Yesterday Mr Weldon welcomed the news of Prof Yablokov's appointment as vindicating his campaign. "We finally have full confirmation of our suspicions that these devices have existed and do exist," Mr Weldon said. "This is not a time to embarrass Russia, but to come together to secure nuclear stability for people in Russia, the US and the world."

Small, tactical nuclear devices have long been deployed on both sides of the Cold War trenches. The US military is believed to have as many as 600 atomic demolition munitions (ADMs) - some of which are known to troops as "satchel" bombs. The weapons were intended for special forces to use behind enemy lines for blowing up key infrastructure like airports and roads. Similar equipment is understood to have been issued to Soviet Spetznaz units as part of some 25,000 tactical nuclear weapons in the Red Army's armoury.

In 1995, rumours swirled round Moscow that two such bombs had been acquired in Vilnius, Lithuania by Chechen rebels. According to the Russian nationalist paper Zavtra, the weapons were bought for $600,000 and all those associated with the transaction were later murdered to ensure secrecy. The correspondent who wrote the article was subsequently abducted and threatened with death if he pursued the story - which was later withdrawn by Zavtra.

Despite the "official" American acceptance of Russia's assurances that there was no threat, US Intelligence agencies are believed to have been probing claims of loose tactical nuclear weapons since 1995. According to One Point Safe, a book by Leslie and Andrew Cockburn, two Washington-based journalists, the US was approached by the Chechens during their war of secession and threatened with nuclear blackmail.

"They told them that if Washington did not formally recognise the Chechen state, they would sell the weapons to Gaddafi (the Libyan dictator)," Andrew Cockburn claims. A subsequent clandestine CIA mission to Chechenya - secretly agreed to by the Russians - failed to turn up evidence of a bomb.

This and other stories of hoaxes and skulduggery, however, proved sufficiently compelling to inspire the Cockburns to write the screenplay for The Peacemaker, a fictionalised thriller bought by Steven Spielberg. Professional analysts are not so much interested in whether the bombs exist, but in where exactly they are located and whether they are under Russia's secure control.

Now that Prof Yablokov has persuaded the Kremlin to take the issue seriously, it may be easier to discover whether any bombs are missing. But, given that the Russians have lied repeatedly about the very existence of the weapons, it may be too much to expect them to report honestly about when or whether they have this arsenal of terror under firm control.

Additional reporting by Alan Philps in Moscow

Copyright Telegraph Group Limited 1997.

Former Spy Says Russia Buried Explosives in U.S.

INTELLIGENCE AUTHORIZATION ACT FOR FISCAL YEAR 1998 (House of Representatives - November 07, 1997
"I do not intend to get into the policy side of this debate here today. Whether we decide that sanctions should be imposed or continued on these countries is secondary, but there is a fact here that simply cannot be ignored. As a Nation, we will not be able to gauge the success or failure of our policies or know the threat without an effective intelligence community. We simply have to have the eyes and ears to let us know what is going on.

We are told that there are no Russian missiles aimed at American children as they go to bed at night. Mr. Speaker, how do we know that for sure? How can we make that statement with certainty? How long will it take to retarget such weapons? How can we know how tenuous is the chain of command in the Russian strategic rocket forces? And how are we to catch profiteers trying to steal and sell suitcase nukes, if indeed they exist? And how are we to uncover and disrupt the secret nuclear weapons programs underway in hostile rogue states we read about virtually every day in the paper and see on television every night? The answer to all of these questions is one word, `intelligence.' "

Are Arab Nukes in Israeli Cities?

[Uncle Bill]

U.S.(Clinton) EQUIPPED TERROR SPONSORS

London Report: Bin Laden May Hit NYSE - "October 5, 1999"

FBI 'Ignored Leads'

Iranian Man in Germany Warned of Attack - Was Allowed to Ring White House & CIA, Wasn't Taken Serious

We’ve Hit the Targets’
"Could the bombers have been stopped? NEWSWEEK has learned that while U.S. intelligence received no specific warning, the state of alert had been high during the past two weeks, and a particularly urgent warning may have been received the night before the attacks, causing some top Pentagon brass to cancel a trip. Why that same information was not available to the 266 people who died aboard the four hijacked commercial aircraft may become a hot topic on the Hill."

"The Coup" Album cover of WTC blast pulled

CNN
September 13, 2001

For the album cover of its new CD, "Party Music," the Oakland, California-based hip-hop group The Coup pictured its two members, "Boots" Riley and DJ Pam the Funktress, in front of the exploding twin towers of the World Trade Center.

In the picture, DJ Pam is holding two sticks while Riley holds what appears to be a detonator. The artwork was designed in July and was preliminary; the album is due to be released November 6.

Riley was shocked and expressed great regret when the image came true.

"All life is precious and this tremendous tragedy is by no means taken lightly by The Coup," he said in a statement. "This is a very unfortunate coincidence and my condolences go out to the families and friends of the victims."

The intent, he said, was to use the World Trade Center to symbolize capitalism "and was not supposed to be realistic in its depiction." The Coup is known for its political activism.

"The Coup are deeply saddened by this horrible tragedy," Toni Isabella, general manager of the group's label, 75 Ark, said in a statement. "The Coup advocates change, but change through peaceful means, never through violence."

Daria Kelly, director of sales for the label, told Reuters the artwork was pulled from the label's Web site by 9:30 p.m. PDT Tuesday. The cover will be redesigned.

Free Republic

Even the baggy pants babblers knew, apparently. I hope the commie scum go broke, COMPLETELY!

[Uncle Bill]

FROM HERE:

"And, in one bizarre - and audacious - twist, his(Clinton) aides pushed for American taxpayers to pick up the tab for court judgments against Tehran for its role in terrorist attacks against Americans."

[Uncle Bill]

Netanyahu: Terrorists Will Use Nukes / 9-14-2001

[Aquinasfan]

If Oswami Ben Leaden had nukes he would have used them instead of going to all the trouble to get pilots trained, airliners simultaneously hijacked, and the having them crash into structures with pinpoint precision.

Exactly.

[Golden Eagle]

Thank you very much, sir. Gives me some good reading material for the weekend. I found it interesting that Colin Powell said this afternoon that we intend to use "all available weapons" in the upcoming conflict with the islamic terrorists. More surprising was the statement by Billy Graham's son Franklin immediately after the prayer service endorsing the use of "weapons of mass destruction" in order to minimize American military casualties. This may very well be correct. May the Lord help us make the correct decision.