William Cohen just spoke on CNN via telephone and said some scary things

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[libertarian_usa]

I can roughly quote William Cohen from his live interview on CNN within the last 10 minutes: "We are going to have to make some tough decisions in this country. We are going to have to "garbled" when making choices between security and civil liberties."

[DCPatriot]

I'm with you, regarding the indiscrimminate nuclear bombing of all Muslim-led governments.

And, you forgot Algeria and Libya, too.

F*ck them all! Send them to Allah!

[wcbtinman]

"Hide your guns guys."

Not me. If it's time to hide them, then it's time to use them.

[oyez]

We don't have to make it radioactive (wink-wink)

[Merovingian]

I'm not sure who our enemies are

Very astute remark. Allies and enemies are cleverly confused by those pulling the strings. Intelligent minds should ask: "Who has the most to gain from this?"

[stuartcr]

Not true. In war, most victims are innocent.

[Dan Day]

Well, consider this: When I was growning up, you could get on a plane as a passenger without having luggage or your personal things checked ... But today, would you even get on a plane that did not check?

Absolutely I would, and with more assurance of safety than I would compared to boarding a jet after going through a metal detector.

Why? Because I'd be armed when I flew if there were no "security" checks, and most likely so would several other honest citizens on the same plane. And anyone who tried to hijack the plane would find their heads blown off the moment their attention wandered far enough for me to get the element of surprise.

Currently, however, I'm unarmed when I fly and I'd be helpless, at the "mercy" of my captors, if the plane were hijacked.

Getting a clue yet? Nah, I doubt it...

We DO give up some freedoms for security.

No we don't. We give up freedoms for the promise of a security that doesn't exist.

[Dan Day]

Well, consider this: When I was growning up, you could get on a plane as a passenger without having luggage or your personal things checked ... But today, would you even get on a plane that did not check?

Absolutely I would, and with more assurance of safety than I would compared to boarding a jet after going through a metal detector.

Why? Because I'd be armed when I flew if there were no "security" checks, and most likely so would several other honest citizens on the same plane. And anyone who tried to hijack the plane would find their heads blown off the moment their attention wandered far enough for me to get the element of surprise.

Currently, however, I'm unarmed when I fly and I'd be helpless, at the "mercy" of my captors, if the plane were hijacked.

Getting a clue yet? Nah, I doubt it...

We DO give up some freedoms for security.

No we don't. We give up freedoms for the promise of a security that doesn't exist.

[no-s]

What's the libertarian response? Shoot the bastards between the eyes.

More sensibly, one can look to the Constitution for a proper response to terrorism
Congress shall have power to [...]grant letters of marque and reprisal,... Article 1, Section 8, United States Constitution

In other words, mobilize the bounty hunters or declare war.

[AK2KX]

Bump to that EBP! Enough of this "measured response" crap. If we don't strike and strike hard, viciously and with everything we have, we will see these attacks on the US increase in the future.

The only thing the human animal understands is brute force. I say we apply it, brutally. Time to split some atoms.

[stuartcr]

The great majority of Quran-quoting Muslims aren't any more radical than the great majority of Bible-quoting Christians. They are just regular people that want to get on with life. Get up, go to work, come home, eat dinner, play with the kids. Just like you and me. They have less power over their radical leaders than we do. How many times has congress done what you wanted them to do? It's not the ordinary civilian that has to watch the tomahawks and scuds blowing up their homes that's responsible for this. It's the FEW in power. I'm sure a lot of VC wanted to nuke your home state, even though it wasn't your idea to fight in VietNam.

[Mopp4]

I'm with you, regarding the indiscrimminate nuclear bombing of all Muslim-led governments. And, you forgot Algeria and Libya, too. F*ck them all! Send them to Allah!

AGREED...Don't forget the words of Patton - you don't win by dying for your country, you win by making the other bastards die for their country.

[stuartcr]

The great majority of Quran-quoting Muslims aren't any more radical than the great majority of Bible-quoting Christians. They are just regular people that want to get on with life. Get up, go to work, come home, eat dinner, play with the kids. Just like you and me. They have less power over their radical leaders than we do. How many times has congress done what you wanted them to do? It's not the ordinary civilian that has to watch the tomahawks and scuds blowing up their homes that's responsible for this. It's the FEW in power. I'm sure a lot of VC wanted to nuke your home state, even though it wasn't your idea to fight in VietNam.

[nancetc]

William Cohen should remember who his boss was...the same arse who allowed our national security to go to hell. BTW did you all get dear Heil clinton's comment that we shouldn't second guess Pres. Bush? What is there to second guess billybub...it was your weakness for the past 8 yrs that allowed terrorism to continue, to allow our security to become weaker, and to be glad to be rid of you. I'd rather be under Pres. Bush's, VP Cheney's leadership than your lack of leadership at this time.

[George W. Bush]

Hide your guns guys! Buy a gun if you don't have one. Glock is nice.

[BearCub]

Well, consider this: When I was growning up, you could get on a plane as a passenger without having luggage or your personal things checked ... But today, would you even get on a plane that did not check? We DO give up some freedoms for security.

You don't have to fly. You know they don't check 'checked' luggage - except on some international flights. Anyone who wanted to put a bomb on a domestic flight could do it easily with nearly no risk of detection.

-bc

[Dan Day]

Hey libertarian...tell us how a libvertarian would solve the problem... WOuld a libertarian tighten the borders? Tighten security? Or just bitch and complain...

Ah, I see that Democrats aren't the only a$$holes who just can't wait to twist this enormous tragedy into a disgusting excuse to score cheap political shots...

This tragedy has nothing to do with Libertarianism, and your bizarre ability to turn it into some sort of springboard for bashing libertarianism only shows a sick obsession on your part. There are far more important things to be discussed now, so I won't even bother to answer your inappropriate and ill-timed questions, even though there are good answers to them.

You disgust me. Go join the Democrats, you'd be right at home there.

[Dan Day]

Hey libertarian...tell us how a libvertarian would solve the problem... WOuld a libertarian tighten the borders? Tighten security? Or just bitch and complain...

Ah, I see that Democrats aren't the only a$$holes who just can't wait to twist this enormous tragedy into a disgusting excuse to score cheap political shots...

This tragedy has nothing to do with Libertarianism, and your bizarre ability to turn it into some sort of springboard for bashing libertarianism only shows a sick obsession on your part. There are far more important things to be discussed now, so I won't even bother to answer your inappropriate and ill-timed questions, even though there are good answers to them.

You disgust me. Go join the Democrats, you'd be right at home there.