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" We Were Soldiers" IA DRANG Battle in Viet Nam
Icon Productions and the book ", We Were Soldiers Once.. and Young" | Lt. Col. Hal Moore

Posted on 09/07/2001 12:51:59 AM PDT by Snow Bunny

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To: wacsog10
Yes to all questions. I've been over the fence many times.
41 posted on 09/07/2001 3:53:39 AM PDT by jackbob
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To: wacsog10
Now don't leave me hanging. Were you there same time? FOB?
42 posted on 09/07/2001 4:05:14 AM PDT by jackbob
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To: Snow Bunny
"We few, we happy few, we band of brothers;"

Westmoreland :
Oh, but if we had but one more from England here this day.

Enter Henry:
If we are mark'd to die, we are enow
To do our country loss; and if to live,
The fewer men, the greater share of honour.
God's will! I pray thee, wish not one man more.
By Jove, I am not covetous for gold,
Nor care I who doth feed upon my cost;
It yearns me not if men my garments wear;
Such outward things dwell not in my desires:
But if it be a sin to covet honour,
I am the most offending soul alive.
No, faith, my coz, wish not a man from England:
God's peace! I would not lose so great an honour
As one man more, methinks, would share from me
For the best hope I have. O, do not wish one more!
Rather proclaim it, Westmoreland, through my host,
That he which hath no stomach to this fight,
Let him depart; his passport shall be made
And crowns for convoy put into his purse:
We would not die in that man's company
That fears his fellowship to die with us.
This day is called the feast of Crispian:
He that outlives this day, and comes safe home,
Will stand a tip-toe when the day is named,
And rouse him at the name of Crispian.
He that shall live this day, and see old age,
Will yearly on the vigil feast his neighbours,
And say 'To-morrow is Saint Crispian:'
Then will he strip his sleeve and show his scars.
And say 'These wounds I had on Crispin's day.'
Old men forget: yet all shall be forgot,
But he'll remember with advantages
What feats he did that day: then shall our names.
Familiar in his mouth as household words
Harry the king, Bedford and Exeter,
Warwick and Talbot, Salisbury and Gloucester,
Be in their flowing cups freshly remember'd.
This story shall the good man teach his son;
And Crispin Crispian shall ne'er go by,
From this day to the ending of the world,
But we in it shall be remember'd;
We few, we happy few, we band of brothers;
For he to-day that sheds his blood with me
Shall be my brother; be he ne'er so vile,
This day shall gentle his condition:
And gentlemen in England now a-bed
Shall think themselves accursed they were not here,
And hold their manhoods cheap whiles any speaks
That fought with us upon Saint Crispin's day.
-- KING HENRY V, Act IV, Scene III

44 posted on 09/07/2001 4:17:49 AM PDT by ofMagog
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To: Snow Bunny

"More than 600 California Army and Air Guardsmen will have supporting roles in the Vietnam era movie..."

This might hurt the realism of the film.....as is apparent from the photo, the soldiers look like National Guardsmen.

45 posted on 09/07/2001 4:27:10 AM PDT by Godebert
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To: ofMagog
"Here comes the herald of the French, my liege."
46 posted on 09/07/2001 4:28:53 AM PDT by Godebert
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To: wacsog10
It was always a bit of a thrill landing on leghorn. I always wanted to remain over night there. But walking down that narrow ridge seems a bit to much. If I had to, I sure would'nt want to do it in the day time (to easy to be seen). An updraft, lifted my roomates disabled slick, right on to the landing pad, saving his life.

Someone else here on FR knows someone who actually climed up the clif. I salute all of you who got off the slicks and went on foot into the unknown.

.

47 posted on 09/07/2001 4:33:49 AM PDT by jackbob
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To: Snow Bunny
Thanks for the flag, Snow Bunny. I salute all vets of all our wars. Regardless of what anyone thinks about Vietnam, these soldiers deserve our respect and thanks. The history books record many heroes in many places and times; those who fought and died at Ia Drang deserve their rightful place on that Honor Roll.
48 posted on 09/07/2001 4:34:57 AM PDT by glocker
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To: Godebert
the soldiers look like National Guardsmen

I'm not sure what a National Guardsman is supposed to look like, but there were a lot of them who volunteered for Nam. If it is the uniform you are referring too, in 65 most American soldiers were still wearing the old HBT fatigues. In fact, I deployed in Jan67 and we didn't get Jungle fatigues until we arrived in country.

49 posted on 09/07/2001 4:47:12 AM PDT by leadpenny
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To: leadpenny
I'm refering to the age and weight of some of the soldiers in the photo. They don't look like they have been humping in the boonies to me.
50 posted on 09/07/2001 4:54:26 AM PDT by Godebert
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To: Snow Bunny
KUDOS to you Snow Bunny!

What a terrific post and your profile is First Rate

Thank you for reminding us that there are some people out there who remember and appreciate the personal sacrifice of so many.

Tan Son Nhut & Pleiku (1964th Communications Group - 1876th & 1878th Communications Squadrons) July '68-July '69

One of my favorite songs is "The Summer of '69" by Bryan Adams...that's when I got back to my wife and the rest of my real life.

Hats off to all those who trekked through the jungles and engaged the enemy face to face!

51 posted on 09/07/2001 4:56:33 AM PDT by borisbob69
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To: Snow Bunny
Bump to the guys who 'rotated' to Germany and then back to the 'bush' again . Heros in a quiet way...
52 posted on 09/07/2001 5:06:22 AM PDT by prognostigaator
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To: Snow Bunny
A buddy of mine lent me a book about Rangers in Nam, as usual a bunch of pictures of grunts on patrol in basecamp etc, And I thought as I looked at them my god were we ever that young!
53 posted on 09/07/2001 5:25:39 AM PDT by Valin
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To: leadpenny, Snow Bunny
Thanks for the trip down the lane.
54 posted on 09/07/2001 5:33:48 AM PDT by wita
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To: Godebert
They don't look like they have been humping in the boonies to me.

I kinda see what you mean. Guess I would prefer to think they look like actors. One thing for sure, Hollywood has learned their lesson about making things 'look' authentic. Hopefully, they will show the 1st Cav the way they really were. When I worked around them in the highlands a year and a half later, they looked like a bunch of Hell's Angels in Cav hats. I mean that respecfully. The units were prohibited from building permanent structures outside of An Khe so as to move out on short notice. They gave the appearance of 'funky' and 'bad-ass' as opposed to being in a 1st Avn. Bde. unit. BTW, we were inserting troops of the 4th ID into the Ia Drang in 67 and most of us had no institutional knowledge of what had happened in 65. Just some random thoughts. Hope the movie is a good one.

55 posted on 09/07/2001 5:42:14 AM PDT by leadpenny
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To: Jimmy Valentine's brother
Think about "The Patriot" or even the first "Lethal Weapon." What sells it for me is Gibson. He often does stuff which is slightly "hokied up" but it all falls into the...dare I say "conservative" approach that while there aren't always good guys and bad guys, (I've seen some really interesting stuff from the POV of the NVA) there is always one side you want to "win" and they are good folks.

PS: On the NVA portion, the NVA unit was a mixture of experienced cadre and relative "cherries" who had been sent out with the relatively simple mission of destroying an undersupplied, underweaponed light-infantry battalion that had had the audacity to poke it's nose into a "safe" territory. Having recently bested the best the French had to offer, they thought it would be a cake-walk. They got their heads handed to them despite having every advantage and it was a sobering experience. From there on out, the NVA upped its "minimum necessary" on taking on the US. But we still _never_ lost a battle. (We lost a few skirmishes and were ambushed quite a bit, but we _never_ lost a major battle.)

56 posted on 09/07/2001 6:03:18 AM PDT by Abn1508
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYatchClub
Thanks for the flag.

Some gave all, All gave some.

Stay well - Yorktown

57 posted on 09/07/2001 6:06:22 AM PDT by harpseal
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To: Snow Bunny
Thanks for the information, Bunny; this will be the first film in decades I'll actually be waiting to see.

You know what?
Here it is years later, & you're still helping.
You're a pretty special person...& Nick's a pretty lucky fella.
God bless you, Angel.

{btw...i'd bet nick's used to the pain of those damned cortisone shots; lord knows I'll never be. :)}

58 posted on 09/07/2001 6:09:19 AM PDT by Landru
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Thanks for the ping. Having served in II Corps myself,I'll be sure to catch the movie.
59 posted on 09/07/2001 6:38:37 AM PDT by sneakypete
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To: DLfromthedesert
A FYI, kid.

Something you ought to consider seeing when it comes out.

...& the babies give you a day off? ;^)

60 posted on 09/07/2001 6:39:24 AM PDT by Landru
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