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California Considers Granting Illegal Immigrants In-State Tuition Rates
CNS News ^ | September 4, 2001 | John Rossomando

Posted on 09/05/2001 2:50:41 PM PDT by Mercuria

The California Assembly is considering legislation that would extend in-state tuition rates to illegal immigrants who have graduated from California high schools.

Assemblymen Marco Firebaugh (D-Los Angeles) and Abel Maldonado (R-Santa Maria) said their legislation would create a level playing field for all high school graduates in the state, regardless of their immigration status.

The California Coalition for Immigration Reform (CCIR), however, insists billions of dollars are already spent to educate illegal immigrants and that the Firebaugh-Maldonado bill would reward lawbreakers.

"There [are] a great number of students in California that have worked hard academically and have been able to achieve," said Firebaugh's Press Secretary Ricardo Lara. "What we're seeing and hearing is that when the kids graduate from high school, and get accepted to various public colleges and universities throughout the state, [they] are forced to pay three times the tuition rate [compared with in-state students]."

Lara claims that many of the students being granted in-state tuition have come into the country illegally because of their parents rather than their own individual actions.

"The stories that we have been hearing are that a lot of these kids have been here since they were the age of one. Obviously the parents brought them over, so they had no idea that they were undocumented and they had no idea that they were 'illegal'," he said. "We can't blame the kids for what their parents did.

"Since the high schoolers cannot initiate the process of legalization themselves, unless obviously they are over the age of 18," Lara said. "What our thinking is, is that these kids are here for most of their lives, they are not going to go anywhere, so the best we can do is to at least help them get an education."

Lara argues that illegal immigrant students are a lost resource, who would be much better used than high tech workers who are imported from abroad.

"They are not getting any benefits, [and] they still are going to have to pay tuition," he said. "We're putting these students at a higher standard," because these students have to have lived in California for three years and graduated from a California high school, compared to the one-year requirement for out of state residents who move to California.

Mexican-American advocates are pleased with the Firebaugh-Maldonado bill that currently sits in the Appropriations Committee of the California Senate.

"We think it is a good thing that the state is not dealing with immigration law, but dealing with education policy for its state and its students," said Liz Guillen, legislative counsel for the Mexican American Legal Defense Fund (MALDEF). "They (illegal immigrants) have been in this state for years.

"The way the bill is written, out-of-state students can get this if they cross the border and attend high school here, so this doesn't [bill] distinguish on the basis of immigration status," she said.

Guillen is confident of the bill's passage because its sponsors have been working with Democratic Gov. Gray Davis's office to craft a bill to the governor's liking.

Guillen shares Lara's belief that granting in-state tuition to illegal immigrants will help make them productive members of society, and limit their need for state social services such as welfare.

"We think that the benefits that the state will enjoy as a result of these students [receiving an] education will be beyond what people are concerned about at the moment," Guillen said.

Davis is waiting to see the final form of the bill before deciding whether to support it, according to his spokesman, Roger Salazar.

However, the bill has stiff opposition from the California Coalition for Immigration Reform (CCIR), which complains that California residents are already required to pay billions of dollars to pay for the education of illegal immigrants.

"The money that we already pay to educate them from K-12 is already in the multi-billions," said CCIR Chairwoman Barbara Coe. "Now we are supposed to stand quietly by and then double or triple it to put them through college. I don't think so.

"You have students from other states who are forced to pay out-of-state tuition while you lawbreakers are given carte blanche, so we oppose it very, very strongly, and we're fighting it as best as we can," she said.

Coe indicates that CCIR would like to legally challenge the bill if Davis signs it into law, but adds that the group does not have enough money to pursue such a lawsuit.


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To: HEFFERNAN2
I'm with you...slainte!!
61 posted on 09/05/2001 8:09:04 PM PDT by Mercuria
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To: Dutchy
TYVVVVM!!! **g**

How ya doin'?

62 posted on 09/05/2001 8:09:34 PM PDT by Mercuria
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To: Mercuria
But I don't drive well..hehe.
63 posted on 09/05/2001 8:09:38 PM PDT by MissAmericanPie
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To: Gritty
Some of us are still sticking around OUR home state for the good fight.
64 posted on 09/05/2001 8:10:32 PM PDT by Mercuria
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To: ex-snook
Does it have anything to do with laws or does it have to do with vote pandering?

Ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm...

65 posted on 09/05/2001 8:11:38 PM PDT by Mercuria
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To: firebrand
Naturally if they have thought of themselves as just like legal residents and citizens for all these years, they are going to demand in-state college tuition rates too.

Of course they consider themselves "legal".

I, Mercuria, am an invader who just happened to be born here.

That's the entire mindset of reconquista.

A group of people who thinks it is ENTITLED to the status and rights of citizens (or rather, the status and rights of SUPERIOR citizens) as the individuals of said group live and work here without having any desire to become actual citizens - in fact, while retaining the citizenship of their home country and sending a majority of their money to prop up their home country's government knowing it creates a burden on the people of the country they're leeching off of - are here for more than just "making a better life" for themselves.

66 posted on 09/05/2001 8:18:30 PM PDT by Mercuria
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To: Joe Hadenuf, MissAmericanPie, Either/Or
I think Texas already did this.

Texas Should End In-State Tuition Boondoggle for Mexican Students

LARRY ELDER AMAZED: Mexicans Pay In State Tuition in Texas

Texas Illegals Get Tuition Break

67 posted on 09/05/2001 8:22:43 PM PDT by Mercuria
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To: Mercuria
Why should non-citizen LAWBREAKERS receive relief from the extraordinary cost of higher education when out-of-state U.S. CITIZENS receive none?

Not to worry. The bush will soon correct this glitch. In the meantime, take a Valium and and go to "A Day In the Life of Bush" where Howlin will offer generous appraisals of other posters.

68 posted on 09/05/2001 8:26:17 PM PDT by Old Fud
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To: Mercuria
Lara argues that illegal immigrant students are a lost resource, who would be much better used than high tech workers who are imported from abroad.

This is really funny, illegal advocate taking a swipe at skilled immigrants who at least had lawful documentation for entry into the United States.

70 posted on 09/05/2001 8:35:03 PM PDT by healey22
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To: A CA Guy
You bet your culo it's wrong...
72 posted on 09/05/2001 8:37:04 PM PDT by Mercuria
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To: Aerial
Well...I just heard Dick Morris call V. Fox a "saint" on Hannity and Colmes. And Hannity is singing the praises of Bush on this thing too. There goes any respect I had for Hannity. He is a Bush yesman.

Fox On Fox!

Of course, Murdoch is more conservative than your more visible media globalist shill...

73 posted on 09/05/2001 8:41:53 PM PDT by Mercuria
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To: Mercuria
That's completely People's Republic of California-esque: destroy the right of American citizens to keep and bear arms, but treat illegal aliens as though they were citizens in good standing.

Leftists are shameless, insidious parasites!

74 posted on 09/05/2001 8:41:59 PM PDT by Standing Wolf
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To: MissAmericanPie
**Did you know some enterprising FReepers actually made bumper stickers with that slogan to "promote" Villaraigosa? BWAHA!!!**
75 posted on 09/05/2001 8:42:52 PM PDT by Mercuria
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To: Standing Wolf
That's completely People's Republic of California-esque: destroy the right of American citizens to keep and bear arms, but treat illegal aliens as though they were citizens in good standing.

Well put. I am starting to think the same damn thing.

76 posted on 09/05/2001 8:44:46 PM PDT by Joe Hadenuf
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To: Old Fud
Open the borders, by all means...but no unwelcome "aliens" on certain FR Threads, please. **chuckle**
77 posted on 09/05/2001 8:45:16 PM PDT by Mercuria
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To: Mercuria
Whoa, gmta. My son was told recently to go back to Europe, so you know the kids hear this stuff at home. Hopefully, if we are going to be allowed to be invaded, these folks will adjust to our live and let live way of life.
78 posted on 09/05/2001 8:56:38 PM PDT by MissAmericanPie
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To: Unexpurgated
Sadly, the RINO's will probably run a spineless candidate for Governor in the Huffington, Lungren, Fong mold who concurs with this anti-sovereignty, invasionist crap.

Bush and his people support the idea of good ol' Richard "RINO" Riordan as governor of California.

Riordan endorsed Feinstein as Senator...and Antonio Villaraigosa, former MEChA bigshot who dodged questions about the ideology of Reconquista, as his mayoral successor.

Can someone please explain to President Bush that an "incremental" shift to the right for our state and nation is NOT going to occur with the likes of Ricky Riordan?

79 posted on 09/05/2001 8:58:35 PM PDT by Mercuria
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To: healey22
This is really funny, illegal advocate taking a swipe at skilled immigrants who at least had lawful documentation for entry into the United States.

But skilled, lawfully-documented immigrants aren't here "for better lives for themselves" like the noble illegals! Get yer head out of the sand! < /sarcasm >

80 posted on 09/05/2001 9:01:12 PM PDT by Mercuria
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