Posted on 12/17/2025 6:39:35 AM PST by Freeleesy
Wikipedia debating if attack targeting Jews at Sydney Chanukah event was ‘terror’. Deborah Lipstadt, scholar and former U.S. envoy on Jew-hatred, said that if the online encyclopedia was downplaying the attack that was unsurprising and it was “being true to itself.”
(Dec. 16, 2025 / JNS) The attack, in which gunmen thought to be a father and son shot and killed 15 people at a Chanukah celebration on Bondi Beach in Sydney on Sunday, is widely described as a terror attack. But editors on Wikipedia are debating whether that phrase is appropriate or it should just be called a “shooting.”
The site’s current page about the incident refers to a “shooting” in the headline and, in the body of the article, to a “terrorist mass shooting.”
Editors on the site, who are volunteer and often unnamed, are also reportedly trying to keep the names of the shooters out of the article. Law enforcement have said that the shooters were inspired by ISIS.
On the “talk” section of the page, editors on Wikipedia are debating whether a sufficient number of sources has called the attack “terror” and if the suspected gunmen, one of whom is dead, are public figures who ought to be named.
Deborah Lipstadt, former U.S. special envoy to monitor and combat antisemitism and professor of modern Jewish history and Holocaust studies at Emory University, stated that if editors are actually trying to characterize the attack merely as a “shooting” on Wikipedia, then that’s “hardly a surprise.
“Just Wikipedia being true to itself when it concerns Israel, Jews, antisemitism,” she stated.
“Chanukah should be celebrated with oil lighting, not gaslighting,” added David May, research manager and senior research analyst at the Foundation for Defense of Democracies.
Wiki
On 14 December 2025, a terrorist mass shooting occurred at Archer Park beside Bondi Beach in Sydney, Australia, in the late afternoon during a Hanukkah celebration attended by approximately one thousand people. Two gunmen shot at the crowd, killing 15 people including a child. Police and Australian intelligence agencies declared it an Islamic State–linked terrorist incident. Numerous world leaders, news outlets and Australian authorities said the shooting was motivated by antisemitism.
According to the New South Wales police commissioner, Mal Lanyon, the shooters were a father and son, aged 50 and 24.[61][62] According to the Telangana Police, in the Indian state of Telangana, the father was an Indian national originally from Tolichowki, Hyderabad, who immigrated to Australia in 1998 on a student visa after obtaining a business degree in Hyderabad and married a European woman in Australia but had retained his Indian passport.[63][64] According to the Australian home affairs minister, Tony Burke, he transferred to a partner visa in 2001 and later obtained a resident return visa.[65] The son, born 2001, is an Australian-born citizen.[62]
The son had been known to intelligence officials since 2019 but was deemed “not an immediate threat”.[62] As a teenager, he followed radical Islamic preacher[70] Wissam Haddad, who was found to have violated Australia’s racial hatred laws in 2025. He regularly worshipped at Haddad’s Bankstown prayer space, the Al Madina Dawah Centre. Videos from 2019 show him proselytising and distributing pamphlets for the Street Dawah Movement. Weeks later, police arrested several associates of the movement, including Isaac El Matari, a self-declared Australian commander of Islamic State (IS) and friend of the son. El Matari is serving a seven-year sentence for plotting an insurgency and attempting to acquire firearms. Another associate, Radwan Dakkak, received 18 months for IS membership and distributing propaganda. Despite these connections, authorities concluded the son was not a high risk member of this network.[71] Police said both gunmen had pledged allegiance to IS,[62][72][73] and two IS flags were found in their car.[74][75]
Every time I look something on there they hound me for money. Leftist garbage like this is why they won’t get a penny from me.
When you run out of toilet paper, there’s always Wikipedia...
Yes...I understand that MSLSD is saying “we may never know the reason for this tragic accident”.
I’ll depend on Wikipedia to tell me what the average annual rainfall is for Kinshasa...but when it comes to anything political I know that what they say is horse droppings.
Is a frog’s ass watertight?
Yes - complete and utter Left wing lies.
Wikipedia is the substance found at the bottom of a toilet bowl.
After contributing for 10 years I was banned for life 4 years ago by a woke administrator. There is nothing you can do about that.
Well, it’s not like real terror-terror.
You gotta have car bombs for that.
This was just shooting with firearms, which actually, you see, is Right-Wing Extremism.
You have to buy grok to get grokipedia, right?
If that wasn’t terrorism, nothing is.
Digital Erasure of Jewish Victims: The Wikipedia Campaign to Protect Genocidal "Palestine" Leadership and Rewrite History.
The same coordinated clique of Wikipedians that previously promoted Pallyweid and amplified genocidal Hamas narratives—relying heavily on Turkey/Qatar/Iran-linked, demonstrably unreliable sources—is now actively sabotaging factual coverage of the Islamic Hanukkah Massacre. Their pattern is consistent: marginalize Jewish victims, blur or excuse Islamist violence, and replace documented facts with ideologically driven distortions. This is not neutral editing but a sustained effort to erase Jewish suffering, shield extremist actors from scrutiny, and weaponize Wikipedia against historical truth and Jewish self-defense.
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Wikipedia debating if attack targeting Jews at Sydney Chanukah event was ‘terror’ JNS . December 16, 2025.
Wikipedia debating if attack targeting Jews at Sydney Chanukah event was ‘terror’. Deborah Lipstadt, scholar and former U.S. envoy on Jew-hatred, said that if the online encyclopedia was downplaying the attack that was unsurprising and it was “being true to itself.”
The attack, in which gunmen thought to be a father and son shot and killed 15 people at a Chanukah celebration on Bondi Beach in Sydney on Sunday, is widely described as a terror attack. But editors on Wikipedia are debating whether that phrase is appropriate or it should just be called a “shooting.”
The site’s current page about the incident refers to a “shooting” in the headline and, in the body of the article, to a “terrorist mass shooting.”
Editors on the site, ... are also reportedly trying to keep the names of the shooters out of the article. Law enforcement have said that the shooters were inspired by ISIS.
On the “talk” section of the page, editors on Wikipedia are debating whether a sufficient number of sources has called the attack “terror” and if the suspected gunmen, one of whom is dead, are public figures who ought to be named.
Deborah Lipstadt, former U.S. special envoy to monitor and combat antisemitism and professor of modern Jewish history and Holocaust studies at Emory University, stated that if editors are actually trying to characterize the attack merely as a “shooting” on Wikipedia, then that’s “hardly a surprise.
“Just Wikipedia being true to itself when it concerns Israel, Jews, antisemitism,” she stated.
“Chanukah should be celebrated with oil lighting, not gaslighting,” added David May, research manager and senior research analyst at the Foundation for Defense of Democracies.
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[Hamas’s operational strategy intentionally endangers civilians by embedding its forces among them, obstructing aid and evacuations, and then instrumentalizing the resulting casualties to advance political and propaganda objectives against Israel].
What is Nazipedia’s other choice? Public Service?
No.
And grok is also free. In fact, you generally don’t have to register, you just get lower priority on searches.
Thx
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