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Lawmaker urges Maryland and Virginia counties to secede and join West Virginia
Washington Examiner ^ | 19 Nov 2025 | Heather Hunter

Posted on 11/20/2025 5:45:32 PM PST by Rummyfan

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PLEASE YES!!!!
1 posted on 11/20/2025 5:45:32 PM PST by Rummyfan
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To: Rummyfan

Allowing counties to secede would make state governments more responsive to political minorities.


2 posted on 11/20/2025 5:53:26 PM PST by packagingguy
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To: Rummyfan

The lefties will NEVER give up their slaves. They ENJOY lording their influence and perversions over the folks who can do nothing about it.

(See also, CA, OR, WA).


3 posted on 11/20/2025 6:11:23 PM PST by FrankRizzo890
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To: Rummyfan

While I like the idea, I believe it requires a 2/3 vote of the US Congress. So it will never happen. Hope I’m wrong.


4 posted on 11/20/2025 6:22:43 PM PST by Eccl 10:2 (Prov 3:5 --- "Trust in the Lord with all your heart, and lean not on your own understanding")
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Doing this would mean that VA and MD would never elect another Republican as Governor again.


5 posted on 11/20/2025 6:27:14 PM PST by Kevin C
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To: Rummyfan

I knew Montgomery County (Blacksburg/Va Tech), right in the middle of the invited Virginia counties, would not be on that list.


6 posted on 11/20/2025 6:37:37 PM PST by mikey_hates_everything
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To: Rummyfan

The original phrase is “appeal to heaven” reference from john locke. When all else fails. The letter to Washington which created the flag has no “an” in it.

https://press-pubs.uchicago.edu/founders/documents/v1ch3s2.html
People, should either the Executive, or the Legislative, when they have got the Power in their hands, design, or go about to enslave, or destroy them. The People have no other remedy in this, as in all other cases where they have no Judge on Earth, but to appeal to Heaven. For the Rulers, in such attempts, exercising a Power the People never put into their hands (who can never be supposed to consent, that any body should rule over them for their harm) do that, which they have not a right to do.
Locke, John. Two Treatises of Government. Edited by Peter Laslett. New York: Mentor Books, New American Library, 1965. See also: Montuori


7 posted on 11/20/2025 7:07:31 PM PST by kvanbrunt2
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Sorry but I was shocked several years ago when I was in Shepardstown. There were LGBT flags everywhere even on a church. The eastern part of West Virginia is pretty liberal because all the DC people go there to retire. Sad.
8 posted on 11/20/2025 7:11:42 PM PST by pterional
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To: Eccl 10:2

While I like the idea, I believe it requires a 2/3 vote of the US Congress. So it will never happen. Hope I’m wrong.>>> Well if the people did reorganize the state of WV what would congress do? No longer let them go to DC and become part of the united States. That would be great too. Especially for WV as they are land locked and protected. They would be free to sell their gas and coal to anyone. Also, Was there a 2/3 vote on the separation of WV from V? Since Virginia seceded in 1861 can WV still reorganize some of the counties in V. based on the fact that WV for their own governor of V in order to create the new Union state of WV which Lincoln pretty much said yes.


9 posted on 11/20/2025 7:25:41 PM PST by kvanbrunt2
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Do it!!!!!

/Appalachian Separatist


10 posted on 11/20/2025 7:34:19 PM PST by Salamander ( Please visit my profile page to help me go home again. https://www.givesendgo.com/GCRRD)
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Shepherdstown is a heathen pit.

I haven’t been there in years but it used to be infested by “ rainbow crap” and occult stores.

I only went there because there was once a really nice jewelry shop that sold amber or we just happened to be heading elsewhere on the Harletsxand it was in the way.

Try to hunt up the series “ Ghosts Of Sheperdstown”.

Hilarious unintentionally.


11 posted on 11/20/2025 7:41:40 PM PST by Salamander ( Please visit my profile page to help me go home again. https://www.givesendgo.com/GCRRD)
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12 posted on 11/20/2025 7:44:12 PM PST by Albion Wilde (To live free is the greatest gift; to die free is the greatest victory. —Erica Kirk)
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Well MD is totally lost and VA seems to be too.


13 posted on 11/20/2025 8:22:19 PM PST by iamgalt
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To: kvanbrunt2

Yes, Congressional approval is required if a county wants to join another state, as this process is considered forming a new state or part of a state and requires consent from both the affected states and Congress. This is because Article IV, Section 3 of the Constitution states that no new state can be formed from the territory of another without the consent of both the state legislatures and Congress.

State and Congressional approval: Both the legislature of the state the county is leaving and the legislature of the state it wants to join must approve the change. Congress must also give its consent for the new political entity to be formed or for the state boundary to be changed.

How it works: This is an extremely difficult process due to the high technical hurdles, including the need for approval from both states and Congress. State legislatures are unlikely to cede territory and its associated tax base and political power.

Examples: Some groups have attempted to initiate this process. For example, a movement called “Move Oregon’s Border” has proposed moving some Oregon counties to Idaho. For this to happen, voters in the affected counties would need to approve the measure, which would then require approval from the legislatures of both Oregon and Idaho, and finally, from Congress.


14 posted on 11/20/2025 8:32:15 PM PST by Eccl 10:2 (Prov 3:5 --- "Trust in the Lord with all your heart, and lean not on your own understanding")
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Shepardstown

To be quite clear ... I live in WEST Virginia ... Shepherdstown is home to a little liberal-arts college ... and it shows. You're painting with too broad a brush. You have to drill down to the PRECINCT level to find any electoral "blue" in WEST Virginia. Shepherdstown is a little island of cyanotic democRAT blue in a sea of Republican Red.

15 posted on 11/20/2025 8:34:03 PM PST by NorthMountain (... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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Shepherdstown is a heathen pit

My dear Amphibian ...

You risk insulting both heathens and pits ... I'd call it a pustule on the arse of the body politic ... but that might be seen as insulting to pustules.

16 posted on 11/20/2025 8:36:06 PM PST by NorthMountain (... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: Eccl 10:2
You are wrong, it doesn't take 2/3 of congress, it technically doesn't require congress at all.

Here is what the Constitution says about new states

New States may be admitted by the Congress into this Union; but no new State shall be formed or erected within the Jurisdiction of any other State; nor any State be formed by the Junction of two or more States, or Parts of States, without the Consent of the Legislatures of the States concerned as well as of the Congress.

Notice there's technically nothing in there about parts of one state leaving and joining another state.

So have a vote in these Maryland counties and if and when it wins big then just do it already. Declare you are now part of West Virginia. Who is going to stop you? Trump can even do an executive order recognizing it.

But unfortunately Republicans would rather argue semantics than beat the Liberals.

17 posted on 11/20/2025 8:49:49 PM PST by qam1 (There's been a huge party. All plates and the bottles are empty, all that's left is the bill to pay)
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If the expanded roster of counties were to secede from their respective states and join W. Virginia, MD would lose 22.7% of its land area and 8.5% of its population, while VA would lose 10.5% of its land area and 4.1% of its population.

Ain't happening!

Regards,

18 posted on 11/21/2025 12:04:22 AM PST by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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haven’t been there in years but it used to be infested by “ rainbow crap” and occult stores. I only went there because there was once a really nice jewelry shop that sold amber [...]

Amber - also known as "Devil Stones" or "Satan's Tears."

Hope you didn't buy any! Bad mojo!

Regards,

19 posted on 11/21/2025 12:08:37 AM PST by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: kvanbrunt2

Each county is required to have a vote to approve it. Then each state legislature has to approve it and then the US Congress - so it’s just talk.


20 posted on 11/21/2025 1:19:16 AM PST by Dave W
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