Posted on 11/05/2025 9:17:25 PM PST by SmokingJoe
FT Exclusive: Jensen Huang has warned that China will beat the US in the artificial intelligence race, thanks to lower energy costs and looser regulations.
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Wait til Elon starts launching Grok AI data centers into space
Grok after a long analysis which I won’t bore you with:
In short, the US is ahead today, but China’s momentum makes complacency risky. The real “win” might be global progress if competition stays constructive—think space race, not cold war.
Yeah, I was thinking about that too.
Musk has posted on X about that.
Might take a few years but he’ll get there.
What he doesn’t know, is that it isn’t a race and if it was, the turtle would win.
But the funny thing is that you can say the same thing about the Americans.
I think the question is, what criteria is used to determine who wins the AI race and who loses ??
In the 1960s during the Space Race with the Soviet Union, the US put a man on the moon before anyone else and it hasn’t been done since by any other country, that’s a definitive win by the US.
I’m not sure how you judge who wins the AI race, one side produces results that the other side can’t, which in terms of technology is only momentary because neither side is going to throw up their arms and quit and concede victory to the other side.
They already have beaten us.
China has been and is building more power generation plants. The U.S. by comparison has been trading water for the last 30 years and thought Green Energy was the future.
U.S. Tech already uses 5% of all electricity generated.
Now these AI firms want to build these huge AL Server farms that need a lot of Power and valuable water to collect them.
Microsoft want to buy the 3 mile Island Nuclear Power plant and bring it back online to power their AI Server farm they want to build.
Bottom line is it will take years to do any of this, China is already there. But AI will not the big breakthrough many think. Little money is being made now. Just a lot of investment, about $2 Trillion worth. And we need to invest at a minimum of $50 Billion on new Power Generation Construction and it will not be Nuclear.
I think the question is what is AI? How is that defined, when you say that what is your thinking as to what that means?
Go back to 1950’s and 60’s Sci-Fi writing and that kind of meant a thinking machine that had an artificial Organic brain that could learn and maybe become sentient.
Right now AI means trying to build a computer system that can process as fast as the Human Brain and that is called Synchronicity, I have a book in my library on this. But that system is still totally dependent on human programing.
We are a long way from the Fictional Skynet.
So right now we are the point of building huge AI data centers where a large number of computers are linked together to try and achieve extremely fast processing on a scale of the human brain.
So is there any company out there working on creating an Organic Artificial Brain from Science Fiction?
Àll that’s under Trump.
Annual combined (2025 est.): ~$170-175 billion (federal + private) and rising fast.
He has all the pieces - the ability to build satellites, launch them, and he has xAI. Plus he hates Sam Altman and has a burning desire to maintain free speech. He also now has firsthand experience with how the government works.
To me that adds up to the inevitable - as AI grows and take over more functions Elon will make sure it is unfettered by governmental interference. I think he will do it quickly enough that they’ll not be able to stop him.
>> Not sure I agree with Jensen on this one.
I remember when we used to consider “the news” and “journalists” to be those who were “informing” us.
They abused their role and over time have forfeited their credibility.
Now everything I read out of the “news” “media” I view with distrust, because I’m certain they’re playing me, not informing me.
Therefore I don’t agree with Jensen on this, either.
>> and [the new power generation] will not be Nuclear
Why not?
a coincidence NVidia’s CEO recently said the same...
On the one hand Jensen Huang does really want to sell his top chips to China, something Trump is against.
China has constructed an underwater data center using seawater for cooling, and an off shore wind farm for electricity.
https://interestingengineering.com/energy/worlds-first-commercial-underwater-data-centre
Yeah, I’m not agreeing with this either. No one will want buy Chinese compute / AI capacity. There are no data centers from US companies in China for a political, workforce and cost reason.
My opinion is that AI today is only as good as what humans put into it. And, it's also another platform that can be manipulated by criminals.
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