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British Columbia man acquitted of sexual assault after blaming 'automatism' on magic mushrooms
CBC News ^ | Jun 17, 2025 | Jason Proctor

Posted on 06/17/2025 8:52:37 AM PDT by jerod

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Only in Canada... The judiciary is full of woke and left of center judges.
1 posted on 06/17/2025 8:52:37 AM PDT by jerod
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Well, gee, Susan Atkins could’ve used this defense.


2 posted on 06/17/2025 8:57:05 AM PDT by Beowulf9
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I know this is in Canada, but I am tired here of attorneys/defendants using this as an affirmative defense. If you take a drug/alcohol then commit a crime, I don’t give a crap, you are guilty. It’s not a get out of jail free card. You did it regardless of your voluntary state of mind.

The same can be said of some cases of “mental illness” like self-inflicted depression. If you made choices and your life sucks big whoop.


3 posted on 06/17/2025 9:00:23 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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Coming soon to a hippy commune near you.


4 posted on 06/17/2025 9:00:52 AM PDT by crusty old prospector
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If you decide to ingest “magic mushrooms”, shouldn’t that be key factor? You were aware of what might happen…unconscious and involuntary behavior…so that makes you responsible for your conduct afterwards. This judge was not very wise.


5 posted on 06/17/2025 9:00:55 AM PDT by FamiliarFace (I got my own way of livin' But everything gets done With a southern accent Where I come from. TPetty)
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Did he voluntarily consume the mushrooms? Yes? Then he’s responsible for what happened next.


6 posted on 06/17/2025 9:04:46 AM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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Just WOW, automatism is a legal defense!?!?

Well, I guess it makes sense Vancouver is the dxpe capital of Canakistan.


7 posted on 06/17/2025 9:06:04 AM PDT by existentially_kuffer
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Yes. He voluntarily took the drugs when he was sober and in his right mind...and knowing how hallucinogenic drugs could affect him. It was HIS voluntary action that caused the problem.

I cannot believe they only take account of his actions when he was blotto.


8 posted on 06/17/2025 9:07:01 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (“Diversity is our Strength” just doesn’t carry the same message as “Death from Above”)
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Many years ago, I developed my “Concrete Bunker” theory of psychoactive drug use: Folks should be allowed to consume any drug(s) they want, in any quantity they want, as often as they want, provided only that they are confined within a concrete bunker while doing so and only released when the effects wear off.


9 posted on 06/17/2025 9:08:21 AM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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>>>while doing so and only released when the effects wear off.

Does it ever wear off were such a acceptance of flashbacks?


10 posted on 06/17/2025 9:18:28 AM PDT by existentially_kuffer
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To: crusty old prospector

If it hasn’t already.


11 posted on 06/17/2025 9:21:04 AM PDT by No name given ( Anonymous is who you’ll know me as)
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Outrageous! So if a drunk gets in his car and kills another careful of people, it’s not his fault, because the alcohol was responsible?


12 posted on 06/17/2025 9:28:13 AM PDT by Flaming Conservative ((Pray without ceasing))
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"(Autonism...hmmm. That's the ticket!)"

BClintonOld

"Y'see, Hillary, I had a little weed with some shrooms..."

13 posted on 06/17/2025 9:34:39 AM PDT by MikelTackNailer (Spreading Metal Gospel on Sesame Street - Pastor of Muppets.)
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“I know this is in Canada, but I am tired here of attorneys/defendants using this as an affirmative defense. If you take a drug/alcohol then commit a crime, I don’t give a crap, you are guilty. It’s not a get out of jail free card. You did it regardless of your voluntary state of mind.”

Yes.. Recently in Mass. An illegal ran over and killed a person. The argument was as a indigenous person he “lacked the enzymes” to process alcohol. And was therefore Not responsible.

The judge/ court agreed. and freed him.


14 posted on 06/17/2025 9:35:22 AM PDT by uranium penguin
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Automatism, not autonism. To me an Automat was a cool place to get a quick fix before the era of fast food.

Automat

So people who were overly dependent on them suffered from true "automatism".

15 posted on 06/17/2025 9:44:38 AM PDT by MikelTackNailer (Back in my day cisgender heteronormativity wasn't a problem.)
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Good Lord! Just how many ways to avoid responsibility and accountability can LIB nitwits create?????


16 posted on 06/17/2025 10:15:08 AM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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Canada: “It was just a woman. Maybe she was asking for it”.
Liberals come full circle.


17 posted on 06/17/2025 10:18:30 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If Hitler were alive today and criticized Trump, would he still be Hitler?)
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I can’t say that the “theory” is fully developed ... but even if released, a druggie experiencing flashbacks must be held completely responsible for his actions.

My main point is that the “war on drugs” is an abject failure ... people who want to dope themselves do so in spite of it. Instead, let them fry their brains ... just completely isolate them from normal humans when they’re under the influence.


18 posted on 06/17/2025 10:30:55 AM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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Extending the logic of this ruling, no one could ever be convicted of a DUI.

Defendant: "Your honor, the alcohol impaired my judgment; I didn't know what I was doing."

Judge: "I understand. This court finds you not guilty of vehicular homicide. Go in peace."
19 posted on 06/17/2025 10:54:16 AM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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Just how many ways to avoid responsibility and accountability can LIB nitwits create?

Considering how mental illnesses and depravities are now considered "alternate lifestyles" deserving special protections we antiquated types don't...

And how a human-trafficking illegal alien wife-beater was magically transformed into a hard-working Maryland dad...

And how expired misdemeanors were resurrected as high crime felonies for the sole purpose of smearing a good man while traitors and villains get bail-less release or free passes...

And how permanent surgical mutilations were renamed "gender affirming care".

I never know anymore if I'm reading satire or actual news. That surprise has been replaced with exasperated weariness at each new atrocity the Leftists inflict on our nation.

If we get nuked I'm hoping for fast atomization. Meanwhile I'll fight the entropy.

20 posted on 06/17/2025 11:10:00 AM PDT by MikelTackNailer (Spreading Metal Gospel on Sesame Street - Pastor of Muppets.)
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