Posted on 05/31/2025 3:24:42 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
DEI has infested the Skies.
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I believe the public should demand that every single screw-up in commercial aviation should be investigated, and wherever the DEI nonsense was responsible, that fact should be explicitly revealed.
I have heard it through the years. I am a hipster doofus.
What does this mean? 280 feet in altitude difference, but almost half a mile horizontal separation?
They were about half-mile (~2500 feet) apart on the horizontal plane and about 250 feet apart on the vertical on a converging course with the United aircraft a bit in the lead is my read.
The Southwest pilot saw the United’ aircraft turn towards him to cross his flightpath. The Southwest aircraft quickly slipped right to get behind the United craft. Given the distances, direction of travel, speeds, and size of the aircraft, it was all a lot closer than it might seem.
Sorry. Yes, you have it right.
I couldn’t figure that out, either. The narration by Captain Steve says they were 280 feet apart at closest approach. I have no idea what the 0.4 NM means.
NM = Nautical Mile
I always enjoyed watching Air Force fighters take off in tandem on the same runway.
280 feet vertical separation and 0.4 NM (0.46 statute mile) horizontal separation. They shouldn’t have crossed paths, but a half mile away from each other is quite a bit.
I gleaned from the video that they switch to automatic navigation one above 500 feet.
Yes, I know that, but what’s with the 0.4 NM and the 300 feet?
The Nav was programmed for their first runway assignment 28L heading close to due west. It’s at 90 degrees to their new runway assignment on 01R which is close to due north. When Nav took over, it immediately turned left to get back on the original runway heading to the west.
My understanding is that the computer navigates the plane. The reprogramming did not happen. That is the extent of my understanding.
Not at 250 mph it isnt.
They are both going ~250 mph at the time...it is closure rate that counts. Am not minimizing the screwup by UAL...fortunately there was take-off stagger and a very good “see & avoid” VFR type move by SkyWest...a former employer of mine.
ASB-B track and ATC/pilot audio here:
https://youtu.be/lOpRf0IeGAo?si=G7rgKSbjFr5rPrxm
YOUR OTHER RIGHT - YOU IDIOT !!!
“ The reprogramming did not happen. ”
Correct. They failed to reprogram in the new runway when they changed runways.
I don’t see how they could have had 0.4 NM horizontal separation. 1L is 7,650 ft long. 1R is 8,650 feet long. They started their takeoff rolls at about the same time. UA would have had to be 1/3 to 1/2 way down 1R before Skywest started its roll on 1L for that horizontal separation.
horizontal and vertical distances, given in different units to confuse Pythagoras.
My theory is that this is the same crew that tried to put a weather satellite into orbit around Mars 26 years ago:
Metric Math Mistake Muffed Mars Meteorology MissionUnits! They'll get you every time.A disaster investigation board reports that NASA’s Mars Climate Orbiter burned up in the Martian atmosphere because engineers failed to convert units from English to metric. A NASA review board found that the problem was in the software controlling the orbiter's thrusters. The software calculated the force the thrusters needed to exert in pounds of force. A separate piece of software took in the data assuming it was in the metric unit: newtons.
PS. That's a headline for the ages!
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