Posted on 05/30/2025 6:08:27 AM PDT by unlearner
this story doesn’t smell right, not even close ...
Tell me about that moment you decided to be heterosexual or homosexual. I never experienced it. What was it like? I simply started getting interested in getting with girls during puberty. . . Not a conscious decision, just a natural compulsion. I think the same dynamic applies to the vast majority of homos.
“this story doesn’t smell right, not even close”
You think it’s made up?
Ok, post your facts if you find any. Otherwise, I’ll assume your gut feeling is the result of that pastrami sandwich you had last night that was a day too old.
“So twin situations are interesting”
They are. And they’re very useful for science because they are a naturally occurring controlled state that can be tested.
Unfortunately, Mengle realized this too. That’s why he stitched a couple of twin boys together to mimic Siamese twins and watched how their bodies reacted to the slow and painful death that followed. He did lots of similar experiments on twins.
“Heck, they hardly look like brothers any more. The gaydar kid grew up totally 100% blow you away gay.”
So, I assume, he had the “gay eyes” too? I’ve always wondered if there is a correlation.
Nope. That anecdote supports my upstring statement that a certain slight minority percentage of homosexuals (40%?) were just born that way.
Think about the inverse group though. If 40% were arguably born that way, then 60%(!) were recruited.
WOW.
“Tell me about that moment you decided to be heterosexual or homosexual. I never experienced it. What was it like?”
I remember hanging out with neighborhood friends one time when I was around twelve. I think my best friend’s brother and another boy might have been sexually curious toward each other. I also remember that other boy having long blond hair and going shirtless, and a momentary thought came to me that viewed him as sexually attractive. That was a fleeting moment, and then I immediately dismissed the idea as disgusting. I always remembered that moment as being decisive for me on the issue.
A lot of people with sex addictions, whether straight or otherwise, eventually identify childhood memories that were formative of their sexuality. Sometimes it’s sex abuse. Sometimes it’s not.
I’ve known some gay men who struggled to connect with women before “deciding” they were gay. But I personally think labeling sexual orientation as a “choice” is oversimplifying something very complex. On the other hand, I think we are responsible for our behavior.
But what about solutions? If homosexuality is a sex addiction, how can someone be set free from it? That’s the question. And it’s not an easy one.
If someone claims it’s simple or easy, ask him how many people he’s personally helped to overcome same-sex attraction.
But I will give a simple answer as the heart of the solution. Understand two words: unwanted desires.
Most of us have unwanted desires, at least at some point in our lives. A lot of approaches to helping people with sex addictions focus on will power or external controls to prevent acting out. These fail.
People who struggle with sex addiction have a dilemma. If they give in to temptation, they experience guilt, shame, and sometimes other consequences. (For example, a businessman might get caught in a prostitution sting and go to jail and have business or marriage repercussions.) But if they resist temptation, they experience the pain and frustration of unmet desires and needs.
Unwanted desires. Successful recovery from sex addiction must include changing desires that are unhelpful or hurtful.
I also saw something last night about this and Ric said he was a Christian. There’s repenting that is needed here as flaunting your sin is not something approved by God.
This goes under the rubric that hypocrisy is the compliment that vice pays to virtue. A little public hypocrisy in matters like this allows for society to function smoothly.
As an older military veteran, I seem to recall homosexuality was a court-martial offense , according to our manuals. When did that change?
Richard Grennell has done a lot for MAGA. He is also a militant homosexual.
Homosexuality is about as much of a "sex addiction" as heterosexuality is, which it is not. Compulsion might be a better description of the impetus driving people - and animals - to have sex with each other. I think that which drives gay men to be sexually attracted exclusively with men is essentially the same compulsion/drive that compels straight men to be attracted only to women. I believe both types are born that way, with some exceptions.
Science has not yet found a “gay” gene, but there does seem to be some genetic component.
Consider this: I have a daughter who is a lesbian, a cousin who is a lesbian, and a brother who is gay. I also have a grandson who is gay.
Now, before you denounce this as a simple case of recruitment, you need to understand this, because I was given up for adoption, my daughter has NEVER met either my cousin or my brother, who are my birth family.
I believe the cause is the same schizophrenia, in that it seems to be chemical. One of our daughters married a man whose aunt is schizophrenic. We now have a schizophrenic grandson too.
“Born this way” may be true, but it’s no excuse for violating God’s law. God KNOWS that, and he still said NO.
It's hard to change addiction by focusing on suppressing desire. I quit smoking after 10 years, only after understanding that I was addicted to nicotine, and giving myself a) permission to smoke because my body needed it even if my mind didn't want it; and B) encouragement to only smoke if I really, really needed it because I was addicted.
However, if I was going to smoke, it had to be the only thing I was doing—no working, talking on phone, watching tv, driving etc while smoking—I had to sit in a chair and smoke, and observe and experience the cigarette.
It took me a year, but I got it down to one cigarette on Saturday night, and finally I gave that up. Decades ago. No relapses.
“But if they resist temptation, they experience the pain and frustration of unmet desires and needs.”
Boo hoo. How is that any different than controlling what one eats in order to not weigh 400 lbs or not spending more than one earns and racking up debt. Or being forced to go to work on a daily basis in order to live instead of gaming all day.
Not getting what one wants or eschewing that which is harmful, however much it is desired, is a fact of life. It is natural to the human condition.
Society needs to stop acting like being told no or doing without is some sort of human rights violation.
We’ll have to pray for him. I hope he’s not in one of those fake Christian churches that worships “diversity.”
this story doesn’t smell right, not even close ...
I’m guessing the reason is not the reason
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