Putin: ‘They invented that Russia wants to attack NATO. Have you completely lost your minds? Dumb as this table?’

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[Kazan]

VLADIMIR PUTIN:

‘They invented that Russia wants to attack NATO. Have you completely lost your minds? Dumb as this table? It’s nonsense. Utter rubbish.’

‘It would be rubbish if it wasn’t a plan just to trick their own population by saying ‘Help! Russia is going to attack soon, we must arm ourselves urgently, send weapons to an Ukraine.’ In reality it is done to preserve their own imperial standing and might.’

‘Look at NATO’s potential and Russia’s potential, did you decide we’re crazy or something?’

[Kentfromohio]

You seem stuck in 1960. The US made promises to Russia when the Soviet Union collapsed, no NATO in the former Soviet countries. The US broke this promise about 10 times. Russia has not initiated any attacks on any other nations. He has only responded when Russian national security was threatened. The US on the other hand has acted as a rogue bully, toppling regimes all around the world when they dared to not follow US orders. The US is the threat to world peace. Given a choice between Putin and Obama/Biden/Bush/Nuland/Clinton I would choose to be ruled by Putin any day. You can have the “commie bastards” of the US Ivy League.

[blackberry1]

You are on the wrong side of history. Buckle up.....

[ifinnegan]

Russia is an economic powerhouse after 30 years of Putin rule.

Almost as rich as Mexico.

[Lurker]

“ installed a puppet government that threatened Russia’s access to its naval base in Crimea…”

That base was in fine shape until Putin attacked Ukraine.

Now, not so much.

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[Lurker]

“ Here you go again, you Globalist toady.”

Hush, child. Grownups are talking.

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[Allegra]

Bernie sounds like a zeeper. (14 seconds)

https://x.com/bubblebathgirl/status/1894294970921611530?s=46

[Menes]

I am afraid that they do, not just in Britain and Germany, but all over the West.

I can only wonder why, obviously the power elites in the West simply wish to do harm to the indigenous population.

The reason for this is maybe just the inherent evil of these power elites: how often does the Bible warn us of evil within the human heart? Didn’t British politician Lord Acton sum it up succinctly when he maintained that „power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely“?

Yes, and in America, a President has come who doesn’t subscribe to this course of action. Thus, the rest of the Western power elite opposes him every step of the way.

[Katya]

On the one hand, Russia has to steal both washing machine and dishwasher chips just to fight... and in the next scene, they’re invading Europe.

[crz]

Not an insult.

You supporters of that conflict are as dumb as a box of rocks AND, are supporters of Banderite ideal.

NAZIS

[crz]

And Israel crossed the border into GAZA to protect its citizens.

There’s your “another one” you wanted.

You against that?

[Ruy Dias de Bivar]

I still remember the late 1950s and the TV blurb “THE MOST HATED NAME IN MOSCOW IS NATO!”

[Petrosius]

Still using ad hominem attacks in place of rational arguments. But I guess if that is all that you have.

[Lurker]

“And Israel crossed the border into GAZA to protect its citizens.”

When did the Ukrainians cross the border into Russia and murder Russian citizens?

Oh, that’s right. They didn’t.

Try again.

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[dfwgator]

I’ve actually listened to Hitler’s full speeches in 1939 before the war started, and it strikes me the similarities between Hitler’s arguments and what Putin is saying.

And if you took Hitler at his word, he actually made a compelling case, but unfortunately it was all BS, as we eventually found out. But I can understand why some of the “isolationists” fell for it.

[Petrosius]

I fear that there are two types here who are accepting Putin’s arguments. The first, of course, are just plain Russian nationalists. But the second are those willingly accepting them in order to use Russia to claim a moral victory over the dreaded NWO. They are so filled with hatred for this that they view everything through that lens. They talk much about a proxy war but it is they who are using this as a proxy war, accepting every excuse and rationalization that Putin offers in order to advance their cause.

[dfwgator]

This is the full two-hour speech by Hitler back in April 1939, where he specifically addresses the telegram that FDR had sent him. If you have the time to listen to it, it’s striking the parallels between the things Hitler was saying and what Putin is saying today.

Now does that mean Putin is like Hitler in wanting to conquer Europe, or is he merely wanting to reconstruct the Soviet Union? That’s just it, you can’t really know. Most people back in 1939 just assumed that Hitler only wanted to “reclaim” the lands “stolen” from Germany via the Treaty of Versailles.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kw77JdxMWZw

[Lurker]

“Now does that mean Putin is like Hitler in wanting to conquer Europe, or is he merely wanting to reconstruct the Soviet Union?”

That is a distinction without a difference.

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[dfwgator]

Well, let’s assume that Hitler stopped with Czechoslovakia, and didn’t make anymore moves. Could we have lived with that?

What if Putin truly gets Ukraine and stops, could we live with that?

The problem lies in the fact that you simply couldn’t trust Hitler nor Putin in not wanting to go further.

[daniel1212]

blockquote> Putin: ‘They invented that Russia wants to attack NATO. Maybe Putin should consider keeping his army on his side of the border. Then this kind of thing wouldn’t happen

Indeed, and it is tragic to see so many Putin supporters here justifying Putin the propagandist who, allied with ChiComs, Muslims, and North Korea, is the only military threat with nukes aimed at the US, and who threatens to use them, as if the West would do so first.

Rather than "They invented that Russia wants to attack NATO," the reality is that Putin actually justified the premise of NATO that its alliance is needed due to Putin's expansionist lust/

During the build-up to its invasion of Ukraine, Russia falsely accused Ukraine of genocide against Russian speakers in the Donbas region. Ukraine fought a war against Russian proxy forces in the Donbas War from 2014 to 2022. Russia's president Vladimir Putin used this claim of genocide to justify the invasion of Ukraine. There is no evidence to support the allegation and it has been widely rejected.^[1]

Following the invasion, Ukraine brought a case before the International Court of Justice (ICJ) to challenge Russia's accusation. During the proceedings of Ukraine v. Russian Federation, the ICJ said it had found no evidence of genocide. The International Association of Genocide Scholars also rejected Russia's accusation.^[2] Further reports by 30 legal and genocide scholars warned that Russia's accusations are part of the "accusation in a mirror" technique, ultimately revealing the Russian incitement to commit genocide against Ukrainians.^[3]

https://thehill.com/opinion/international/4911702-russian-atrocities-ukraine: When Russia’s full-scale invasion of Ukraine began in 2022, the Kremlin claimed that it was coming to aid ethnic Russians and Russian speakers in Ukraine. It stated that it would seek to take what it deemed to be historically Russian cities in Ukraine. 

From Odesa, Kherson and Mariupol in the south to Kharkiv, Luhansk and Donetsk in the east, Russia said it would protect ethnic “comrades.” Russia claimed the Ukrainian government was persecuting these groups and that Vladimir Putin’s

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legions would save them. 

What has transpired is anything but what Russia said it would do to aid ethnic Russians. 

Over the past two and a half years, Russia has committed thousands of atrocities in Ukraine and targeted ethnic Ukrainians and other minority groups. The invading forces bombed historical sites, cultural centers, religious sites and civilian areas, forcibly deported various ethnic communities and tortured and murdered many Ukrainian citizens. 

Ethnic Russians and Russian speakers within Ukraine were also targeted. 

For example, the Russian Federation launched numerous bombardments on Odesa, a city with a significant Russian-speaking population. It intentionally targeted civilian sites and dozens of Ukrainian citizens have died. These acts immensely impacted native Russian-speaking Odeasans, so much so that many have switched to speaking Ukrainian. 

In the eastern city of Kharkiv, another “historically Russian-speaking city,” Russia launched deadly offensives in the spring of 2022 and 2024. Nearly 200 Ukrainian civilians were killed during these attacks. Russia launched a bombardment on the center of the city, targeting historical and cultural areas. 

Meanwhile, during the occupation of the southern city of Kherson, Russian forces inhabited the streets. Russian soldiers tortured Ukrainian citizens and members of various religions faced persecution. 

Then, there was Mariupol, a city that was once home to 450,000 residents. Now, it has been completely flattened. Tens of thousands of Ukrainian citizens were killed during those Russian attacks. 

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[Lurker]

“Indeed, and it is tragic to see so many Putin supporters here….”

Go check my posting history, Scooter. I don’t support either side.

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