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Lehigh County DA investigating improper voter registration forms
The Morning Call ^ | Nov. 1, 2024 | Evan Jones

Posted on 11/02/2024 7:16:49 AM PDT by The_Media_never_lie

The Lehigh County District Attorney’s Office is looking into several hundred irregular voter registration applications.

District Attorney Gavin Holihan said that his office was alerted to the applications Thursday evening and met with the county election office Friday morning. He said there will be a criminal investigation.

“An overwhelming number of these applications are done poorly,” Holihan said. “The names are wrong, the names are duplicated, the names and addresses don’t match, there’s insufficient information on the applications.

“Can we find out who did that? That’s a good question. We would also need to know where physically it was done, because these things are then bundled together and brought to the voter registration office in boxes by the hundreds or thousands.”

Holihan said that there’s an important distinction between improperly filling out a voter registration form and improperly voting. The latter is illegal.

“That’s an important distinction,” he said. “These are not votes. They’re not ballots. It does make a difference that these are not actual votes, so it’s not voter fraud.”

(Excerpt) Read more at mcall.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Politics/Elections; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: corruption; crime; election; fraud; gavinholihan; lehighcounty; pa; pennsylvania
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To: dfwgator

Could be a feint, to cover the real cheating.

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The cheating here might be real.


21 posted on 11/02/2024 7:54:08 AM PDT by The_Media_never_lie ( @whoisourPresident)
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To: Owen

Infiltrator since 98.


22 posted on 11/02/2024 7:54:33 AM PDT by Revel
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To: The_Media_never_lie; All
Why the hell doesn't the DA file immediate charges under 52 U.S. Code § 20511 (below) and immediately make sure no ballot can be submitted under these false registrations? If the criminals have already voted, Pennsylvania voters are denied equal treatment under the law...i.e., they are screwed and not getting equal treatment under the law.

Harris screeches all the time about "the rich must pay their fair share" but what about a "fair share" in voting? When your vote is cancelled by a criminal, you are being treated most unfairly.

The Dems who encourage these fraudulent registrations know EXACTLY what will happen -- the fraudulent registrations are discovered too late, the courts will say "too closed to the election," the ballots will be mailed out, and the fraudulent votes cast.

The only solution is:
▶︎ STOP MAIL VOTING. It is prohibited in most countries. It has been found again and again in the USA to be the most common way to cheat.
▶︎ PURGE and ERASE all registration databases every four years, right after the quadrennial presidential election.
▶︎ REQUIRE every person who wants to vote to appear in person at the registrars office with valid ID to re-register to vote every four years.


23 posted on 11/02/2024 8:08:42 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (“President Trump sells out Madison Square Garden -- Kamala sells out America”)
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To: The_Media_never_lie; All
I'm blocked by a paywall at the Morning Call / McCall site. If you are blocked too, you can get past it by using 12ft.io.

Click on the article link on FR, copy the URL on the blocked page, go to 12ft.io, paste the link there, and click "Clean webpage."

24 posted on 11/02/2024 8:19:09 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (“President Trump sells out Madison Square Garden -- Kamala sells out America”)
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To: Owen
Then why bother filling them out and sending them in at all? I can think of four reasons.

1. Someone was a paid registration collector and did a half-assed job to get a check. Using the same address a hundred times over was easier than looking up a new address for each one. This is essentially fraud against the Democrats, so I don't mind.

2. Someone actually thought these would get through and be registered. Look for absentee ballot requests to match to the addresses.

3. It's an attempt to cover for the actual false registrations already submitted to keep those who might be able to investigate busy with these later registration.

4. It's someone for our side making a big "fraud" attempt to attract attention, get it on the news and get everyone watching closely. This is akin to yelling fire in a theater to get the firemen and fire inspectors to come to see that the fire doors are locked, the sprinkler system has been turned off and the fuse box is stuffed with pennies.

Number 1 is a possibility because it was so sloppy, 2 or 3 are more likely even though you have dismissed them, and 4 would require a level of four dimensional chess no Republican has ever shown. Hopefully publicizing these fraudulent registrations has scared off anyone from trying to use them to vote.

25 posted on 11/02/2024 8:22:59 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (7/13/2024:The day the Democrats and their SA chose assassination as their primary political tool.)
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To: Owen
Owen, did read the entire article?

You childishly wrote "silly voter registration forms" which indicates you don't take any of this seriously.

So you know that submitting false voter registration forms is a FEDERAL CRIME punishable by fines and to five years in prison.

You further wrote the childish "They did not result in anyone registered. They did not result in anyone getting a ballot. They did not result in anyone voting from that registration."

You have NO WAY of knowing any of that. Do you honestly think that NONE of the submitted fraudulent registrations were rejected? From the article (for your edification):

“Groups that want more people to vote pay people to go out and register people to vote. I can hire 100 people to become canvassers, to go out into the community and register people to vote. The problem is that I hire people and tell them I will pay you to register people to vote. The more people you register, the more I pay you.”

So even if a person fills out the form as “Mickey Mouse,” election office personnel are still required by law to process the application.

Holihan said one thing that’s a special concern is that some fraudulent applications could use names of real voters. “Some of these fraudulent voter applications might use your name without you knowing it, and then when you try to go vote, you may not be able to vote because your name will have been filed on an application,” Holihan said. “They might change your address. They might change your voting district. They might change your county.”

Election personnel are REQUIRED BY LAW to process the application. That means the person named in the application IS REGISTERED.

Are you really that hopelessly naive?

26 posted on 11/02/2024 8:26:14 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (“President Trump sells out Madison Square Garden -- Kamala sells out America”)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom
The DA is a word salad prosecutor.
27 posted on 11/02/2024 8:30:15 AM PDT by The_Media_never_lie ( @whoisourPresident)
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To: The_Media_never_lie

Find the source and put them in Prison.


28 posted on 11/02/2024 8:36:08 AM PDT by tennmountainman ( (“Less propaganda would be appreciated.” JimRob 12-2-2023 DITTO)
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To: The_Media_never_lie
It is a Third Degree Felony in Pennsylvania if you provide false information on your voter registration application. It is punishable by up to 7 years incarceration and a $15,000 fine.
29 posted on 11/02/2024 8:37:26 AM PDT by thegagline (Sic semper tyrannis! Trump & Vance, 2024! (Formerly) Goldwater & Thomas Sowell)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

“Why the hell doesn’t the DA file immediate charges under 52 U.S. Code § 20511 (below) and immediately make sure no ballot can be submitted under these false registrations?”

He went to law school with Harris . . .


30 posted on 11/02/2024 8:39:12 AM PDT by MCSETots ( )
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To: ProtectOurFreedom
Why the hell doesn't the DA file immediate charges under 52 U.S. Code § 20511

Because the DA is a county DA and therefore has neither the power nor the jurisdiction to file federal criminal charges.

31 posted on 11/02/2024 8:45:12 AM PDT by thegagline (Sic semper tyrannis! Trump & Vance, 2024! (Formerly) Goldwater & Thomas Sowell)
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To: MCSETots
“Why the hell doesn’t the DA file immediate charges under 52 U.S. Code § 20511 (below) and immediately make sure no ballot can be submitted under these false registrations?” He went to law school with Harris . . .

A County DA in the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania cannot file federal charges. Apparently, you went to the same law school as Harris too.

32 posted on 11/02/2024 8:49:54 AM PDT by thegagline (Sic semper tyrannis! Trump & Vance, 2024! (Formerly) Goldwater & Thomas Sowell)
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To: MCSETots

“He went to law school with Harris”

LOL...sounds right! Weak record of prosecuting anything and NO RECORDS of the few prosecutions she says she did.


33 posted on 11/02/2024 8:52:11 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (“President Trump sells out Madison Square Garden -- Kamala sells out America”)
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To: thegagline

Good point. But he can make an immediate referral to the US Attorney with jurisdiction. Take action! Don’t just stand there with your thumb up your butt making lame excuses.


34 posted on 11/02/2024 8:53:33 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (“President Trump sells out Madison Square Garden -- Kamala sells out America”)
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To: thegagline

Just read these two paragraphs by the word salad prosecutor:

“An overwhelming number of these applications are done poorly,” Holihan said. “The names are wrong, the names are duplicated, the names and addresses don’t match, there’s insufficient information on the applications.

“Can we find out who did that? That’s a good question. We would also need to know where physically it was done, because these things are then bundled together and brought to the voter registration office in boxes by the hundreds or thousands.”

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OMGosh, they are allowing some organization or persons to register voters, and they don’t even know who it is? An “overwhelming” number are “poorly done”. They were brought in in boxes by the 100s or 1000s?

What is this, anyway? But don’t worry, no crime was committed until these votes are actually cast. So, why is DA investigating this at all?


35 posted on 11/02/2024 8:53:46 AM PDT by The_Media_never_lie ( @whoisourPresident)
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To: thegagline

So, the DA may be correct that voter registration fraud may not be a county crime. Is registration fraud a state crime? Just unethical for an AZ organization to encourage voter registration fraud in boxes of 100 or 1000?


36 posted on 11/02/2024 8:57:32 AM PDT by The_Media_never_lie ( @whoisourPresident)
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To: The_Media_never_lie
Holihan said that there’s an important distinction between improperly filling out a voter registration form and improperly voting. The latter is illegal.

“That’s an important distinction,” he said. “These are not votes. They’re not ballots. It does make a difference that these are not actual votes, so it’s not voter fraud.”

I downloaded a registration form for Pennsylvania. It had the following:

PENALTY FOR FALSIFYING DECLARATION

Warning: If a person signs an official registration application knowing a statement declared in the application to be false, makes a false registration, or furnishes false information, the person commits perjury.

Perjury is punishable, upon conviction, by a term of imprisonment not exceeding seven years, or a fine not exceeding $15,000, or both, at the discretion of the court.

Submitting an application containing false information may also subject a person to other penalties, including loss of the right of suffrage, under state or federal law.

So saying it is not vote fraud is a dodge. Each one of these falsely submitted registrations, if signed, is purjury. Nail the submitter to the wall for seven years and $15,000 for each and every form. Maybe reduce it if the DA can convict his bosses like in a RICO case.

And depending on how that first paragraph is read, you might not even require a signature. The grouping in the sentence might be:

If a person

1. signs an official registration application knowing a statement declared in the application to be false,

2. makes a false registration,

3. or furnishes false information,

the person commits perjury.

So if you make a false registration or furnish false information you might not even need to sign it.
37 posted on 11/02/2024 8:57:47 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (7/13/2024:The day the Democrats and their SA chose assassination as their primary political tool.)
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To: The_Media_never_lie

Submitting a Voter Registration Form with false information is a 3rd degree felony in Pennsylvania, punishable by up to 7 years imprisonment and a $15,000 fine.


38 posted on 11/02/2024 9:02:06 AM PDT by thegagline (Sic semper tyrannis! Trump & Vance, 2024! (Formerly) Goldwater & Thomas Sowell)
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To: KarlInOhio

This is exactly why registration should normally be done IN PERSON, BY THE VOTER! It should never be don in boxes of 100 or 1000.


39 posted on 11/02/2024 9:04:08 AM PDT by The_Media_never_lie ( @whoisourPresident)
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To: The_Media_never_lie

Any precinct proved to have election shenanigans should have all their ballots thrown out. Just like they do in school when they can’t pinpoint the culprit.


40 posted on 11/02/2024 11:36:26 AM PDT by fella ("As it was before Noah so shall it be again," )
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