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All crew members rescued after New Zealand navy ship runs aground off Samoa coast, catches fire and sinks
Sky News Australia ^ | 10/6/2024 | Laura Grassby

Posted on 10/06/2024 7:11:36 AM PDT by T.B. Yoits

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To: PUGACHEV

“Hmm, now let’s see, there’s supposed to be a reef around here somewhere...”


41 posted on 10/06/2024 8:02:08 AM PDT by HartleyMBaldwin
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To: SharpenedEdge

When DEI (Didn’t Earn It) becomes GRI (Gonna Reef It).


42 posted on 10/06/2024 8:03:09 AM PDT by T.B. Yoits
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To: SMARTY

No. But we’re a leading importer. We’ll get there.


43 posted on 10/06/2024 8:03:40 AM PDT by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: T.B. Yoits

in the good ol’ days, the captain would have gone down with the ship


44 posted on 10/06/2024 8:04:20 AM PDT by Mr Radical (In times of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.)
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To: T.B. Yoits

Hell of a price to pay for being stylish.


45 posted on 10/06/2024 8:05:02 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: T.B. Yoits

Was it wooden?


46 posted on 10/06/2024 8:05:20 AM PDT by xoxox
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To: T.B. Yoits

Looks like the crew was hitting the coral reefer.


47 posted on 10/06/2024 8:05:47 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: T.B. Yoits

everything is so boringly predictable.


48 posted on 10/06/2024 8:06:00 AM PDT by xoxox
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To: T.B. Yoits
“Fortunately, no one was heavily injured and no lives were lost. We're proud to say WE SAVED THEM.”

Thank God
49 posted on 10/06/2024 8:09:37 AM PDT by af_vet_1981 ( The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began)
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To: T.B. Yoits

“If you’re referring to ‘McHale’s Navy’”

No, the 1962 movie, where they filmed in Tahiti and used women from the area (all topless, by the way). And these were REAL WOMEN (no ‘uplifts’, no tattoos), rather than females in Hollywood, which was why they had so much trouble getting the filming crew to fly back to California. What happened during the movie (and off camera) pretty much matched what happened when the Bounty crew ended up in the same neighborhood, although I believe that the women there were a bit more than just topless, at least back then.


50 posted on 10/06/2024 8:17:46 AM PDT by BobL
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To: T.B. Yoits

In this age of global positioning systems and advanced radar and sonar, why are we hearing all these stories about ships crashing into things—or into each other?


51 posted on 10/06/2024 8:19:02 AM PDT by Fiji Hill
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To: T.B. Yoits

They don’t indicate who the captain was in the article.


52 posted on 10/06/2024 8:23:02 AM PDT by alternatives?
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To: Fiji Hill
In this age of global positioning systems and advanced radar and sonar, why are we hearing all these stories about ships crashing into things—or into each other?

I suspect a contributing circumstance is the ship controls. This ship was retrofitted and recommissioned in 2019 so it likely had the same idiotic touchscreen controls that manufacturers have negligently been putting in automobiles.


On a related note, after the US Navy is going back to physical throttles after the fatal crash in 2017 involving the the USS John McCain and a container ship. From 2019:

No More Screen Time! The Navy Reverts to Physical Throttles: The US Navy will eliminate touchscreen controls in destroyers after reports found many sailors did not know how to work them, contributing to accidents.
https://www.wired.com/story/no-more-screen-time-navy-reverts-physical-throttles/

Navy Reverting DDGs Back to Physical Throttles, After Fleet Rejects Touchscreen Controls
https://news.usni.org/2019/08/09/navy-reverting-ddgs-back-to-physical-throttles-after-fleet-rejects-touchscreen-controls

53 posted on 10/06/2024 8:25:53 AM PDT by T.B. Yoits
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To: alternatives?
They don’t indicate who the captain was in the article.

Not in this article but other articles they do. "Chief of Navy, Rear Admiral Garin Golding, said the decision of Captain Yvonne Gray to abandon ship was the “right decision” and would have “saved lives”."

https://www.1news.co.nz/2024/10/06/captains-decision-to-abandon-hmnzs-manawanui-saved-lives-navy-chief/

Amazing how the Chief of the New Zealand Navy knew that the decision was the right decision so quickly.

54 posted on 10/06/2024 8:30:10 AM PDT by T.B. Yoits
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To: Fiji Hill

Part of the problem is a crew still needs to clap their eyes on the sea or the displays to know what’s going on about the ship. All the technology in the world won’t save a ship if it the crew is undisciplined or inattentive. And I think that can happen when a crew relies overly much on their gadgets and gizmos to do their work but gets lazy about monitoring them.


55 posted on 10/06/2024 8:31:36 AM PDT by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: rktman

“Passengers?”

Navy ships involved in surveys or other technical operations carry civilians to operate required equipment.


56 posted on 10/06/2024 8:36:25 AM PDT by TexasGator (l . . l / l / . l l . l).1 1 l l l l l " / . l l ( . 1 l l l . . l// l l l l)
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To: BradyLS

…Or is poorly trained in their duties to begin with.


57 posted on 10/06/2024 8:40:31 AM PDT by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: T.B. Yoits

Ran aground AND sank....now there is the headline!


58 posted on 10/06/2024 8:42:16 AM PDT by If You Want It Fixed - Fix It
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To: T.B. Yoits

Ran aground and caught fire?! That’s quite a two-for.


59 posted on 10/06/2024 8:45:31 AM PDT by Rummyfan ( In any war between the civilized man and the savage, support the civilized man.)
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To: If You Want It Fixed - Fix It

“Ran aground AND sank....now there is the headline!”

What is the problem?


60 posted on 10/06/2024 8:46:33 AM PDT by TexasGator (l . . l / l / . l l . l).1 1 l l l l l " / . l l ( . 1 l l l . . l// l l l l)
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