Posted on 10/01/2024 8:17:32 AM PDT by MNDude
This is why I have a problem with the “I quit” part. You are a problem solver. But if the administration doesn’t let you do that, they are showing you the door and you need to find somewhere else to ply your trade.
See? A bad teacher does not a good student make.
Dear ChatGPT, how do I give this paper an F?
AI in education will create more clueless, unprepared fools than we have now.
WUT, no one has come up with a AI proggie that can tell that another AI did the writing?
Good luck in your retirement. Hope all goes well.
In less than 100 years we’ve gone from teaching Latin in grade school to teaching remedial English in colleges and it’ll only get worse.
Just make the students hand write the assignment in class. No computer, no I-Pad, no spell check just pen and paper.
I imagen the results would be comical and unreadable.
Inform the students up front that if they can’t reason and write for themselves, and prefer to rely on AI, that any future employer will also discover they have no need to hire them, in preference for AI.
I recall taking exams in a “Blue Book.” These compositions had to be performed on-site during the exam.
In NYC public schools at least (and I suspect other places), if you failed students for using ChatGPT or similar cheats, there would be a petition or some such thing accusing the teacher of racism. The black teachers and administrators would defend the cheaters and make the non-black teacher have to prove the cheating to a fare-thee-well. This would waste so much time of the accusing teacher that they probably would not think it’s worth their time, especially when many or most of the class cheated. So the students have learned two things: they don’t have to learn to wield the English language with facility to summarize and support their views or to express them effectively. Secondly, that cheating is the way to go, undermining honesty.
To make this worse, a student can ask ChatGPT to write at a certain reading level - and to deliberately introduce grammatical errors.
E.g.
Prompt:
“Briefly describe, what are the basics of how an internal combustion engine works? Please write at a university reading level.”
Result:
“An internal combustion engine (ICE) is a type of heat engine that generates mechanical power by burning fuel inside the engine’s cylinders. The basic operation of an internal combustion engine involves four key stages, often referred to as the four-stroke cycle: intake, compression, power, and exhaust.
Intake Stroke: During this phase, the intake valve opens, and a mixture of air and fuel (in gasoline engines) or just air (in diesel engines) is drawn into the cylinder as the piston moves downward, increasing the cylinder’s volume.
Compression Stroke: After the intake valve closes, the piston moves upward, compressing the air-fuel mixture. This compression increases the temperature and pressure inside the cylinder, making the mixture more reactive. In a diesel engine, only air is compressed, and fuel is injected at the end of the compression stroke.
Power Stroke (Combustion): Once the air-fuel mixture is fully compressed, a spark plug (in gasoline engines) or the heat from compression (in diesel engines) ignites the mixture. This combustion generates a rapid expansion of gases, forcing the piston downward and creating mechanical work that drives the crankshaft.
Exhaust Stroke: Finally, the exhaust valve opens, and the piston moves upward again, expelling the burned gases from the cylinder to prepare for the next intake stroke.
These four strokes repeat continuously, converting the chemical energy in the fuel into mechanical energy, which powers the vehicle’s wheels. This cycle happens thousands of times per minute in a running engine, producing the motion necessary to propel a car or other machinery.”
New Prompt:
“ok, now repeat - but write at a 6th grade level with some grammar errors.”
Result:
“An internal combustion engine works by burning fuel inside it to make power. It has four main steps that happen over and over:
Intake: The engine pulls in air and fuel when the piston goes down.
Compression: The piston moves up, squishing the air and fuel mixture together so it’s ready to burn.
Power: A spark makes the fuel explode, which pushes the piston down hard and makes the engine move.
Exhaust: The piston goes back up, pushing out the leftover gases from the explosion.
These steps keep repeating fast, turning fuel into energy that makes the vehicle go.”
We were taught to both investigate possible duplication of already-public opinions, and also for facts/research - make citations and provide exact sources, and page numbers.
I believe ChatGPT can also provide such detail, but it is in such details where the student will be unable to fake knowledge.
“ Collegiate systems like Turn It In score papers on a plagiarism score. If AI was creating the paper it would probably score too high to be accepted.”
I look at the turnitin score along with the citations and references when I grade papers. I tell students week one how I am grading papers and what not to do. Some listen, many don’t, then have the nerve to ask me why.
I looked her bio and Linked-in to find at what technical school it is typical to cheat so much the teacher quits, no offense to FRiends but it looks like that was New Jersey Inst of Tech in Newark, NJ where she spent Jan 2019 to June 2024.
Good luck with that in an engineering career.
great idea but it would mean creating individualized tests for each student, wouldn’t it?
“I imagen the results would be comical and unreadable.”
A professor did that to us. At the beginning of the course he said in one hour to write as much as possible. Most handwrote one terrible page of gibberish. He said that at the end of term we’ll all write four well written pages of good material. We did. He was a GREAT teacher.
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