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Putin Declares Changes to Russian Nuclear Doctrine
NY Times ^ | Sep 25, 2024 | Ivan Nechepurenko

Posted on 09/25/2024 4:28:09 PM PDT by McGruff

Speaking at a meeting with his top officials in the Kremlin, Mr. Putin announced proposed amendments to the Russian military doctrine, the policy document that regulates the use of nuclear weapons.

“It is proposed that aggression against Russia by any nonnuclear state, but with the participation or support of a nuclear state be considered as their joint attack on the Russian Federation,” said Mr. Putin.

The Russian leader said that the policy needed to be amended because “military-political circumstances is changing dynamically.”

“The conditions for Russia’s transition to the use of nuclear weapons are also clearly fixed,” Mr. Putin said, adding that Moscow would consider such a move if it detected the start of a massive launch of missiles, aircraft, or drones against it.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia; War
KEYWORDS: nuclear; putin; putinbots; russia; trustputin
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To: Apparatchik

I stand by what I said.


21 posted on 09/25/2024 8:13:53 PM PDT by laplata (They want each crisis to take the greatest toll possible.)
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To: FlyingEagle

When was the last time the Rooskis actually had a successful nuclear test, as in actually lighting one off?


22 posted on 09/25/2024 8:20:12 PM PDT by Timber Rattler ("To be prepared for war is one of the most effectual means of preserving peace." --George Washington)
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To: kiryandil

I would hope we did the same thing if in the same position.


23 posted on 09/25/2024 8:55:12 PM PDT by Bikkuri (I am proud to be a PureBlood.)
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To: Timber Rattler; FlyingEagle
When was the last time the Rooskis actually had a successful nuclear test, as in actually lighting one off?

Skin that smokewagon, and see what happens, snek.

24 posted on 09/25/2024 8:57:32 PM PDT by kiryandil (Kraft durch Freude! - The Kamunist and The Walzrus )
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To: Bikkuri
I would hope we did the same thing if in the same position.

TOTALLY agree.

25 posted on 09/25/2024 8:58:05 PM PDT by kiryandil (Kraft durch Freude! - The Kamunist and The Walzrus )
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To: kiryandil

That’s the proof that idiot has, that they haven’t launched any. It’s so stupid it hurts. It’s third grade logic.


26 posted on 09/25/2024 10:00:47 PM PDT by rxh4n1 ( )
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To: rxh4n1

Putin revises Russia’s nuclear doctrine to grant use of deterrent ‘at any time’

https://novayagazeta.eu/articles/2024/09/25/putin-revises-russias-nuclear-doctrine-to-grant-use-of-deterrent-at-any-time-en-news


27 posted on 09/25/2024 10:13:18 PM PDT by Texan4Life
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To: WKUHilltopper

[Still think there’s an election in November?]

Good question


28 posted on 09/26/2024 12:22:07 AM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the Days of Lot; They did Eat, They Drank, They Bought, They Sold ......)
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To: laplata

The recent changes to President Putin’s nuclear doctrine certainly escalate the stakes in the ongoing conflict in Ukraine. By declaring that aggression against Russia—especially when supported by a nuclear power—could be treated as a joint attack, Putin is signaling a lower threshold for nuclear engagement. This alteration is particularly alarming given his assertions that even conventional military actions could justify a nuclear response.

If the US and Britain were to assist Ukraine in striking deep into Russian territory, utilizing American satellites for targeting, it could be perceived by Moscow as crossing a dangerous line. Such actions could be interpreted not just as support for Ukraine but as direct involvement by NATO powers in the conflict, heightening the risk of miscalculation or misinterpretation.

Putin’s emphasis on responding to perceived threats from various military platforms—including drones and missiles—suggests that even small-scale military engagements could trigger an exaggerated response. This creates a precarious situation where both sides may act under the pressure of rapid escalation, leading to a breakdown in communications and potentially catastrophic outcomes.

Moreover, the rhetoric surrounding the use of nuclear weapons reflects a shift towards a more aggressive stance, where the use of such weapons is not just a deterrent but could be viewed as an option in response to conventional threats. This development increases the potential for a nuclear holocaust, especially if there are significant misjudgments or if one side misreads the intentions of the other.

In this volatile environment, it is crucial for Donald Trump to be elected in order to engage in de-escalation strategies and reinforce diplomatic channels. The stakes are incredibly high, and the consequences of a nuclear exchange would be devastating not only for the immediate parties involved but for the entire world.


29 posted on 09/26/2024 2:12:34 AM PDT by pterional
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To: kiryandil
Skin that smokewagon, and see what happens, snek.

OK.


30 posted on 09/26/2024 4:13:34 AM PDT by Timber Rattler ("To be prepared for war is one of the most effectual means of preserving peace." --George Washington)
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To: Timber Rattler

So you adhere to the FAFO philosophy. Which gravely endangers all of NATO. You seem to be bereft of brains and of caring for the populace. You are saying, when Russia fires nukes at NATO, they will be duds.

And you cannot see how phenomenally moronic that is.

Russia is promising it. They have the capability. And you don’t care.

Yours is the very posture of a warmongering neocon.


31 posted on 09/26/2024 5:18:20 AM PDT by FlyingEagle
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To: pterional

Thanks for that excellent analysis. I’d say you are right on.
Scott Ritter had a similar analysis recently.

Ritter said we have no competent diplomats who are knowledgeable of how the Russians think or who even want to understand them.

I think their taking down our grid is very possible/probable.

The people in charge want huge population reductions and taking down the grid would accomplish that. After about 8 months they could walk in and turn on the lights again. No damage to the infrastructure, etc.

If the grid goes down, who did it? Our people in one of the alphabet agencies or a foreign power?


32 posted on 09/26/2024 6:17:56 AM PDT by laplata (They want each crisis to take the greatest toll possible.)
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To: FlyingEagle
They have the capability.

Prove it, huckleberry.

33 posted on 09/26/2024 7:07:17 AM PDT by Timber Rattler ("To be prepared for war is one of the most effectual means of preserving peace." --George Washington)
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To: laplata
Scott Ritter had a similar analysis recently.

This guy?

The long, complicated public life of Scott Ritter, Bethlehem man scrutinized by FBI


34 posted on 09/26/2024 7:10:15 AM PDT by Timber Rattler ("To be prepared for war is one of the most effectual means of preserving peace." --George Washington)
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To: Timber Rattler

I recognize you and want no further posts to me from you.


35 posted on 09/26/2024 7:24:47 AM PDT by laplata (They want each crisis to take the greatest toll possible.)
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To: Presbyterian Reporter
Putin drops a nuke on Ukraine Brussels because USA NATO supports Ukraine.

So many scenarios. Here's just one more.

36 posted on 09/26/2024 8:12:55 AM PDT by Salman (It's not a slippery slope if it was part of the program all along. )
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To: Timber Rattler

I’m your huckleberry snake.

You will find your kindred pathetic neocon souls at DU.


37 posted on 09/26/2024 11:14:18 AM PDT by FlyingEagle
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