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To: Jim Robinson
I am sure 99% of us, INCLUDING ME, is on board for Trump. These threads, all of them for Trump, Vance, Harris, Walz, and here, for example, the DNC allow us to see what is going on, understand the issues from both sides, comment, discuss, etc.

I'll have to reread this and yesterday's DNC thread, but absolutely no one is suggesting that we should change our vote to Harris or Walz!

And, if I may, our other rally threads that I have posted, for Trump and Vance, it is the exact same. We do note evolving views, discuss stuff, note where things fall flat, we are not an echo chamber. End of day though we still, I suspect, 99% support and will vote for Trump.

There is a tendency to think and non-lockstep cheerleader discussion is bad, it is not. This site has never been an echo chamber. Going back to Obama days, we commented on the Kool-Aid drinkers for The Dear Leader if you recall.

Consider a recent point. Trump has had a generally clear populist, pro-American worker, pro-American student view. Then, about 6 weeks ago he said he would offer visas to graduating foreign students to stay in the US and compete with our kids graduating American schools. Of course there was an uproar across the country and we, me and others, noted and objected to the change. Lo and behold, Trump heard and shortly thereafter reversed himself. I don't think any of us were not going to vote for him or skip voting, but we had opinions, there were discussions on the site, like friends.

Immigration is another point. Deport all illegal aliens? The 15-20 million new under Harris and Biden, Vance now says likely 20-25 million. What about the total 30-60 million? Trump usually says all, greatest deport ever, etc. Vance has been consistently clear that they all need to pack up and leave. Trump has varied. Take the platform as an example, Well, his the platform planks says all, yet the detailed page say "begin". Trump varies, he's wobbly, not an idealogue. Consider today, he said he would deport the violent ones, 1-2 million. How's that all fit? Sure we discuss it, shouldn't we? Maybe Trump listens. I think it is in our favor that Vance is VP because he is more disciplined and focused on the issues and will have Trump's ear. Hopefully more so than Ivanka's. Anyway, our discussion is good, it mirrors the country, and may have positive impact. No one is saying dump Trump, not vote for him, or anything remotely like that!

So what I am saying, suggesting, and urging is that we welcome all conversations in all threads. Heck, even from some non-Trump supporters. Maybe with polite discussion and no insults, name-calling, and bullying we can convince them to join us. Same for the few Freepers that have sometimes expressed views recently that they might not vote for Trump. Fine, let's have those conversation, we've got 77 days to turn them around. Trump needs to build the base, we should do our part to help.

FR is a forum for discussion, aligned with you, but we're not a cult.

Respectfully.

49 posted on 08/20/2024 4:27:29 PM PDT by Reno89519
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To: Reno89519

This is HIS Site. He sets the rules


53 posted on 08/20/2024 4:32:27 PM PDT by cowboyusa (YESHUA IS KING AMERICA, AND HE WILL HAVE NO OTHER GODS BEFORE HIM!)
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To: Reno89519

Sounds very reasonable.

As long as people are polite and have sensible points to make, I see no reason why productive discussions could not ensue.

I think everyone needs to realign their thinking. Unless I’m completely off base, I would assume that any threads posted on FR are threads belonging to FR, open to anyone, and do not belong to the person posting them. As long as contributors act like adults, I don’t see why we can’t all get along just fine.

Just over two months to go. I honestly don’t know how we’re going to be able to stand it. I dread what the dems have planned for you guys this fall. I keep praying for President Trump and for saving America. If you guys fall, we all fall.


63 posted on 08/20/2024 4:55:33 PM PDT by JudyinCanada (You're it. )
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To: Reno89519

For the next couple months we’re a cult.


77 posted on 08/20/2024 5:12:56 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyranny is obedience to God.)
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To: Reno89519; All
Then, about 6 weeks ago he said he would offer visas to graduating foreign students to stay in the US and compete with our kids graduating American schools

This was standard years ago, the F-1 visa allowed new grads to stay for a year for training. I suppose it started being abused just like the L-1.

97 posted on 08/20/2024 5:50:58 PM PDT by 1066AD
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To: Reno89519
What about the total 30-60 million?

I can guarantee you there are right at 40 million illegal immigrants in the country now.

124 posted on 08/20/2024 6:22:14 PM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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