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Did NASA Just Admit That Boeing's Starliner Is Doomed?
PJ Media ^ | August 05, 2024 | Stephen Green

Posted on 08/05/2024 11:52:06 AM PDT by george76

Well, here's another nice mess NASA and Boeing have gotten us into.

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space station docking ports as the most expensive and coveted parking spots on or above the Earth because that's exactly what they are. There are only a handful of them, reaching one costs tens of millions of dollars, and they're reserved months or even years in advance. And, needless to say, there's no possibility of double-parking. Every docking port needed by the next vehicle must first be vacated by the current one.

The dock currently occupied by Starliner is needed by a SpaceX Crew Dragon capsule and its four astronauts set to fly the Crew-9 mission. Crew-9 is set for Aug. 18

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every delay in getting another capsule up to ISS has cascading effects down the line and that the station is nearing the end of its service life and will be deorbited in 2030.

This morning I learned that NASA is now considering bumping Crew-9 from Aug. 18 to Sept 24, which space journalist Eric Berger (the best in the business) called "a significant slip." The reason for the possible delay is a virtual confession that Wilmore and Williams will not be coming home on Starliner this week, next week, or ever.

Boeing needs the extra time to prepare Starliner for self-destruct.

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If they decide Starliner is unfit — assuming they haven't already and are just being mum for now — then Starliner will have to be software-piloted to disembark from ISS and burn up in the Earth's atmosphere. And Wimore and Williams will have to hitch a ride home on a Crew Dragon.

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TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: boeing; nasa
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To: Jan_Sobieski

then where did all the moon rocks come from then?????
you think thousands of scientes that study the rocks would say they came from earth???


61 posted on 08/05/2024 2:58:40 PM PDT by markman46 (engage brain before using keyboard!!!)
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To: markman46

“boeing has to update the flight software so that starliner can auto undock”

If they start calling in old retired white guys the answer should be “no”.


62 posted on 08/05/2024 2:59:30 PM PDT by cgbg ("Our democracy" = Their Kleptocracy)
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To: ken in texas

Well if you try to put 2 and 2 together in the back seat of a Rambler...


63 posted on 08/05/2024 2:59:35 PM PDT by FrozenAssets (You don't have to be crazy to live here, but it helps)
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To: cgbg

no the aholes at boeing took the auto undock software sequence out of the flight control system to save space or some such BS.. take up to 4 weeks to work it back in and test it then do the update on starliner..


64 posted on 08/05/2024 3:06:43 PM PDT by markman46 (engage brain before using keyboard!!!)
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To: null and void

fire all management and ALL DEI scum, and hire some eyeglassed, tie wearing geeks

*ahem* You forgot pocket protectors...

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and slide rules.


65 posted on 08/05/2024 3:21:57 PM PDT by dagunk
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To: markman46

They’re all fake. Petrified wood. Look it up!


66 posted on 08/05/2024 3:36:49 PM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: Owen
The elephant in the humiliation room is not SpaceX. They may not have anything ready to go.

Actually SpaceX has a Crew Dragon that's supposed to launch to the ISS on August 18th.

But as long as the Starliner is docked, the Crew Dragon can't

67 posted on 08/05/2024 3:48:17 PM PDT by chaosagent (Remember, no matter how you slice it, forbidden fruit still tastes the sweetest!)
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To: Jan_Sobieski

“If you call filming moon landings in a warehouse successful…I agree!”

What a stupid thing to say. Were you even alive then?

You have no clue.


68 posted on 08/05/2024 3:53:31 PM PDT by Nik Naym (It's not my fault... I have compulsive smart-ass disorder. )
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To: markman46

Don’t waste your time. This clown has a (wrong) answer for everything.

You can’t convince a fool he is wrong by using facts.


69 posted on 08/05/2024 3:59:54 PM PDT by Nik Naym (It's not my fault... I have compulsive smart-ass disorder. )
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To: Afterguard

“now we buy throw away stuff.”

I don’t, there’s plenty of good stuff hiding out at Restores and 2nd hand shops antique malls etc... you don’t have to opt out for any crap that’s on the market today. And I don’t ever throw anything away I will take it apart and burn it or repurpose it.

I love that late autumn bonfire and cookout.


70 posted on 08/05/2024 4:06:47 PM PDT by Clutch Martin ("The trouble ain't that there is too many fools, but that the lightning ain't distributed right." )
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To: markman46

“took the auto undock software sequence out of the flight control system to save space or some such BS”

Obviously you are not talking about physical “save space”. You are saying they did not have enough computer memory? These days computer memory is relatively cheap and takes up almost no physical space.

If true that is Boeing stupidity beyond imagination.


71 posted on 08/05/2024 4:07:31 PM PDT by cgbg ("Our democracy" = Their Kleptocracy)
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To: MtnClimber

Boeing has a history of hiring part-time workers. They keep workers on for contracts and when the contracts are over they let them go. When I lived in the greater Seattle area growing up, it was basically a fishingville and A Lumber Town with an aircraft Factory. Everybody practically worked at the aircraft Factory and when the contracts were thin and they let people go everybody had a second trade. That was normal.

What another big contract would come along they rehire everybody it’s the nature of that town.


72 posted on 08/05/2024 4:10:14 PM PDT by Clutch Martin ("The trouble ain't that there is too many fools, but that the lightning ain't distributed right." )
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To: Empire_of_Liberty

And they are all WHITE, or damn close to it.


73 posted on 08/05/2024 4:13:46 PM PDT by 5th MEB (1)
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To: brownsfan

DEI will be the death of us all.

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In this case I blame “Financialism.”

Instead of producers accumulating capital, it’s about people with access to capital accumulating productive businesses they know nothing about nor care to learn.

Boeing has been a slow-motion train wreck for years, ever since the financialist types took over.


74 posted on 08/05/2024 4:17:33 PM PDT by Disestablishmentarian (#T-Party 2024)
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To: 5th MEB

I was going to say that, but there were one or two I wasn’t sure of.

Honestly, I know times were different and that there’s no brain-impairment that says women can’t do this. But, I also know that men and women are different. Often they compliment each other and cover for the other’s failings.

But mixed, there’s a whole new dynamic. These men were serious and determined. They were NOT going to lose another man.

All-women might be able to be the same, but that’s a whole ‘nother reality.


75 posted on 08/05/2024 4:27:17 PM PDT by Empire_of_Liberty
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To: george76

Is this Trump’s fault, too?


76 posted on 08/05/2024 4:29:17 PM PDT by gitmo (If your theology doesn’t become your biography, what good is it?)
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To: cgbg

Article says they want to reprogram it so the can undock and burn it up in the atmosphere. Say whatever you want but just don’t say they’re stranded.


77 posted on 08/05/2024 4:48:03 PM PDT by ARW
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To: Da Coyote

My so interned at Goddard for two summers. Incredible stuff goes on there. I was lucky enough to have private tours of the facility twice. I was shown most of the inner workings of the fabrication and testing areas, to a tool and fabrication geek like me it was near enough the promised land. They even allowed me into a large clean room where the returned hardware for the last Hubble retrofit was being analyzed post mission.

Absolutely mind blowing stuff. People say the moon missions were faked. I’m here to tell you I was allowed to see original large scale photos and documents that would convince the most die hard skeptic the missions were real. Stuff the public at large has never been shown.

The point is while I agree NASA may have lost the narrative there are areas where they do incredible things. And your point about the female engineers is spot on. I met one young female engineer who was designing a satellite cooling package that was a mile of tubing required to be folded into a two cubic foot space, incredible. On the other hand I attended a lecture by none other than the James Hanson that was absolute bull shit.


78 posted on 08/05/2024 5:20:23 PM PDT by VTenigma (Conspiracy theory is the new "spoiler alert")
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To: mund1011

Explorer guy was more worried about not having anyone around him that actually had experience, and would tell them no.

Any story like this you tend to find someone who doesn’t want to hear know and they realize that hiring young inexperienced folks are just not likely to tell them no. They are also much easier to sell on their “dream”.

Sue he could claim to the press he liked younger kids because of the energy but at the end of the day he just liked the fact they didn’t question him because they were too inexperienced and naive too.. they were more focused on making something that had never been done than to stop and ask why hasn’t this been done…

Basically it’s a bad bad idea and it will fail, not a matter of if it will fail only when. Any experienced person would and had told him that.

What is insane about the explorer is that it was allowed to carry passengers, commercial passengers no less… what universe is that legal? I can’t fly my experimental aircraft and charge passengers to fly with me it’s a violation of the law, yet what he was doing was legal? Insane


79 posted on 08/05/2024 5:24:59 PM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: VTenigma

My son/ not my so


80 posted on 08/05/2024 5:30:04 PM PDT by VTenigma (Conspiracy theory is the new "spoiler alert")
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