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To: 4Zoltan
But the plain text of the 14th includes natural born citizens.

“All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.”

No "natural born citizen" in there. It doesn't say that.

“All persons born …in the United States” means all persons including natural born citizens.

No it doesn't. The 14th amendment does not operate on natural citizens. It was only intended for people who would not otherwise be citizens.

It why when Courts read Wong Kim Ark they see it as defining natural born citizen.

Except for the Fueller court itself, which conspicuously left out those words.

Modern courts ignore that specific omission and mentally add "natural born" to "citizen" every time they consider it. This is a leap of faith, and not supported by the evidence.

“From the law as announced and the facts as stipulated, I am of opinion that Wong Kim Ark is a citizen of the United States within the meaning of the citizenship clause of the fourteenth amendment.” Judge Morrow, US District Court for the North District of California.

Yet when the US Government appealed the case they wrote in their appellant brief that Judge Morrow was wrong to rule Wong Kim Ark a natural born citizen.

Did Judge Morrow use "natural born" or was that the government lawyers that stuck that in there?

In any case, someone getting their citizenship from a man made law is not a "natural citizen", they are a naturalized citizen.

214 posted on 07/29/2024 6:43:17 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: DiogenesLamp

Is a natural born citizen a person born in the United States and subject to its jurisdiction?

Is a native born citizen a person born in the United States and subject to its jurisdiction?


224 posted on 07/29/2024 8:01:53 AM PDT by 4Zoltan
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