[timestax]

and going down to catastrophic defeat.

Put a lot of the blame on Congressman Clyburn. He's the one who pumped him up when he was going nowhere in 2020 (?).

[j.havenfarm]

Oh, I put the 90% of the blame on Clyburn. All of Joe and Jill’s ambition and greed would have gotten them nowhere without clyburn’s intervention