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To: hopespringseternal

[Complete BS. Negates the entire reason for the existence of the secret service. Are they assuming the first shot will always miss? Or that they can just all stand around with their thumbs in their asses while an assassin takes out their charge?

Anyone too stupid to reject this excuse needs to go rent a second brain cell.]


And yet you almost never hear of presidential assassins being shot first. This is a question of fact, not what you see in Hollywood movies or TV shows, where cops kill any number of people and come out unscathed from a legal standpoint. Screw up, and whomever made the decision has no career left, maybe faces prison and divorce.


82 posted on 07/16/2024 1:31:58 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room)
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To: Zhang Fei

“Screw up”

Biden’s future is now at stake because a security person did not do a sufficient job and a very nice man in the crowd got killed. It was not just Trump at risk, every person in the crowd was at risk.

“Let me close with this. Donald Trump is a genuine threat to this nation. That is not hyperbole. He’s a threat to our freedom. He’s a threat to our democracy. He is literally a threat to the America that we stand for.”

Joe Biden

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/speeches-remarks/2024/06/29/remarks-by-president-biden-at-a-campaign-reception-east-hampton-ny/

Quotes:

the judge said, Trump’s words were “an implicit call for imminent violence or lawlessness” that is not protected by presidential immunity or the First Amendment.

The D.C. Circuit agreed with the lower court’s finding

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-jan-6-immunity-us-capitol-police-officers-civil-suit-appeals-court/

Pennsylvania authorities should submit a case to a grand jury.

If the grand jury returns an indictment, Pennsylvania should endeavor to legally secure Biden’s residences and get an injunction barring the US government from flying him outside the USA.


99 posted on 07/16/2024 2:23:15 PM PDT by Brian Griffin (*** Help Trump, fund Republican candidates: https://ballotpedia.org/U.S._House_battlegrounds,_2024)
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To: Zhang Fei

You don’t hear about it because they are pretty much only ever identified when they open fire. Until this event they would walk up with the gun hidden or fire from a hidden or obscured position. Not laying out on an open roof with a gun wearing contrasting clothing.

Point a gun at anyone and your average everyday cop is justified in shooting you.

Are you really dumb enough to think it is SS policy to let assassins take a free shot?

Any perceived threat of deadly force justifies deadly force.

People, even kids get shot all the time in these situations. It is tragic but it just isn’t a wait and see situation.

Now it has come out that even the sniper teams themselves had even sighted him two minutes before he fired. And they didn’t even try to warn anyone much less eliminate the threat.


105 posted on 07/16/2024 3:12:19 PM PDT by hopespringseternal
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