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To: Az Joe

Questions (coming from ignorance, not attempts at making arguments by rhetorical questions):

Were those first three shots unrealistically close together?

Were the next several shots ... impossibly close to be a single shooter ... the shots by several agents returning fire?

How did TMZ end up with a clear view of the killer? Why couldn’t the Secret Service get high-ground views of the area surrounding the rally?


6 posted on 07/14/2024 3:26:40 PM PDT by dangus
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To: dangus

Also: why can people in the crowd see the sniper and respond, “He’s got a gun,” and yet the secret service does not push Trump down or in any way act to protect him.


21 posted on 07/14/2024 3:35:34 PM PDT by dangus
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The frist three shots sounded Aimed, the next volley was likely spray and pray, the next was the police sniper shot taking him out, followed by a second police shot a few seconds later to finish him off maybe.
I say the just after watching videos of different angles and there was a good one near the shooter on the ground, with excellent sound.


22 posted on 07/14/2024 3:36:01 PM PDT by Pocketdoor
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Here is the video I was referring to.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FjAoGKMQBis

its several short videos put together.


26 posted on 07/14/2024 3:39:55 PM PDT by Pocketdoor
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To: dangus

“How did TMZ end up with a clear view of the killer?”

They pay for other first hand folks to give up their media rights for what’s on their cell phone. At least I believe that to be the case.


29 posted on 07/14/2024 3:40:16 PM PDT by DAC21
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I have some questions about those first 3 shots pop pop pop. First of all, they were loud compared to subsequent shots. Secondly, at least one of them was prior to Trump getting hit. Third, as FREEPER “dangus” noticed, those 3 shots were close together. Fourth, it is not known if the innocent bystanders were hit from these 3 shots or later ones. These things make me wonder if these 3 shots came from the SS snipers. So, it seems possible that 2 of the shots came from one SS sniper, the third from the second SS sniper (in between his partner’s shots). And why did the perp start missing so badly—bullets flying everywhere. Was he injured from fire by the SS snipers?


33 posted on 07/14/2024 3:41:13 PM PDT by grumpa
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To: dangus
Questions (coming from ignorance, not attempts at making arguments by rhetorical questions):

Were those first three shots unrealistically close together?

Not at all.

Were the next several shots ... impossibly close to be a single shooter

No, they are certainly not "impossibly close"

... the shots by several agents returning fire?

One agent most likely, with a somewhat heavier semi-auto rifle than the perp's. Video taken near the building the shooter was on reveals them to be acoustically more powerful, but with a very similar "acoustic signature" to each other as a group.

How did TMZ end up with a clear view of the killer?

Unknown. Luck?

Why couldn’t the Secret Service get high-ground views of the area surrounding the rally?

This one looks like somebody blew it. There should have at least been a couple LEO's on that roof or a roof with a view of the "back side" of the roof the shooter climbed.

38 posted on 07/14/2024 3:46:37 PM PDT by Paul R. (Bin Laden wanted Obama killed so the incompetent VP, Biden, would become President!)
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They showed a video when shooting was happening and they took the still shot of him taking aim from that. Then a still shot from after it was over and shooter was dead. Then I see a up close and personal picture of his head and it’s high definition. Looked like it was taken from up close. But was a zoomed in shot from the still frame that is fuzzy if we try to zoom in.


44 posted on 07/14/2024 3:49:38 PM PDT by glimmerman70
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To: dangus

All together at least 4 people were struck with bullets; Trump, the guy who died and 2 others critically wounded. Yet, the assassin fired 3 bullets before what we took for return fire from the Secret Service or police. Somebody has to account for the discrepancy. Ricochet or second shooter?


105 posted on 07/14/2024 4:48:46 PM PDT by Missouri gal
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