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The U.S. Navy's New Ford-Class: The Worst Aircraft Carrier Ever
The National Interest ^ | 7/9/24 | Brandon Weichart

Posted on 07/10/2024 7:28:14 AM PDT by hardspunned

The United States Navy remains heavily invested in aircraft carriers, with the new Gerald R. Ford-class intended to replace the aging Nimitz-class. However, these new carriers are costly, over-budget, and fraught with technological issues, raising concerns about their effectiveness in modern warfare.

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To: central_va

They don’t scram for the slightest reason, they can be brought back on line quickly, and they aren’t any more vulnerable than boilers or gas turbines.


61 posted on 07/10/2024 11:18:31 AM PDT by Pan_Yan
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To: Vermont Lt

You should be working with the traitors and dipships running the Pentagon. You’re a natural at unquestionably stooging for the MIC regardless of how many U.S. soldiers get killed. Just as long as your handlers make their profits. If you can honestly attempt to defend the CF system after CF program coming out of the MIC you’re such media addled goon that trying to reason with you would be a waste of my time.

The putz Ukrainian navy of cheap drones shut down the Russian Black Sea Fleet. The Houthis, with even less, humiliate the USN in the Red Sea and you’re too stupid to have any idea what’s going on. Like I said, a natural to be with the half wits and rainbow warriors in the Pentagon.


62 posted on 07/10/2024 11:21:30 AM PDT by hardspunned (Former DC GOP globalist stooge)
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To: Pan_Yan
and they aren’t any more vulnerable than boilers or gas turbines.

LOL. I call BS. So a radioactive steam line rupture is not more dangerous that a plain H20 steam rupture? If I am doing damage control in an engineering space just the thought of radio active steam flying around scares the sh!t out of me. On a normal boiler powered ship it is a 5 minute crises after isolation and shut off. On a nuc reactor that is catastrophic......

63 posted on 07/10/2024 11:26:19 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: central_va

I spent 9 years in submarine enginerooms. Your mileage may vary.


64 posted on 07/10/2024 11:29:20 AM PDT by Pan_Yan
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To: hardspunned

If the IJN had started a Kamikaze campaign in’43, they would have run out of aircraft much sooner.


65 posted on 07/10/2024 11:29:42 AM PDT by JackFromTexas (- Not For Hire -)
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To: hardspunned

It’s amusing, the ONLY place I see continuous personal attacks on FR is on the Russian subjects, from the Russians.

If you don’t like the story, attack the story, not the person. I understand visceral reactions are normal in some cultures. We need to try harder.

You need to try harder.


66 posted on 07/10/2024 11:32:19 AM PDT by Vermont Lt (Don’t vote for anyone over 70 years old. Get rid of the geriatric politicians.)
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To: Reno89519; All
"Just put a 100% tariff on everything from China or containing Chinese components and put that money into defense programs."

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Yuo do that, all the Prime contractors will go bankrupt.

China is the key supply chain.

China is the "Arsenal of Democracy"


67 posted on 07/10/2024 11:37:28 AM PDT by Reverend Wright ( Everything touched by progressives, dies !)
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To: Pan_Yan

Tell me, if a radioactive steam line breaks what happens?


68 posted on 07/10/2024 11:39:19 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: Reverend Wright
So being a Free Traitor™ explain why if a supply chain with China is broken then it can never be remade in the USA. It is always a one-way deal?
69 posted on 07/10/2024 11:44:02 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: central_va

Well stone cold fact. If a 1200 PSI steam line breaks cv or CVN the 11th commandment of NBC warfare applies. Put your head between you legs and kiss yer arse good by. One hole the size of a #2 pencil lead can dismember or decapitate you. Broom stick were your friend down in The Hole. If you weren’t sure about a line you used it to check the pipe. If the broom cut into you stepped back. You can not hear as 1200 psi superheated leak. One more fact strange but true. If The Hole became silent meaning you couldn’t hear machinery it meant a major steam break was occurring. Get the hell outta Dodge, go to the second deck and I’ll stop there but Snipes know what to do.


70 posted on 07/10/2024 11:52:38 AM PDT by cva66snipe
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To: hardspunned

The purpose of a Ford class aircraft carrier is to make money for the “defense” industry.


71 posted on 07/10/2024 12:06:37 PM PDT by Salman (It's not a slippery slope if it was part of the program all along. )
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To: hanamizu

Glad somebody said it. Ford was probably one of the most fit men to become President. SNL made him look silly on purpose to advance an agenda.


72 posted on 07/10/2024 12:24:01 PM PDT by packrat35 (Pureblood! No clot shot for me!)
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To: Buttons12
"We’re stuck with seagoing aircraft carriers until we can whip up airborne aircraft carriers."

My uncle, who worked security at Los Alamos and Sandia Labs, when watching the Marvel movie that had flying aircraft carriers, commented to me...

"They don't look like that."

73 posted on 07/10/2024 12:26:01 PM PDT by Crusher138 ("Then conquer we must, for our cause it is just")
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To: hardspunned

Technological issues

Must be the same team that said guns on planes are a thing of the past make the F4’s rockets only.


74 posted on 07/10/2024 12:35:05 PM PDT by Vaduz
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To: Mouton

And there was that politician not too far back that was afraid that California was going to break off and float away.

If we could figure out how they think that would work then maybe we could have California do patrols half way between Nevada and Japan.

That should hold a plane or two.


75 posted on 07/10/2024 12:44:35 PM PDT by gnarledmaw (Hivemind liberals worship leaders, sovereign conservatives select servants.)
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To: central_va

I am not a free trader and never have been, going back to opposing NAFTA.

I was just pointing out the nonsense from the Military Industrial complex that they are “opposing China”, when China is their supply chain.

The reason why it is so hard to rebuild the supply chain in the USa is that when the factories shut down and moved offshore, the companies that make tools for the factories also shut down.

That’s why the new ammunition factory in Texas has production equipment made by Repkon in Turkey.


76 posted on 07/10/2024 1:33:12 PM PDT by Reverend Wright ( Everything touched by progressives, dies !)
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To: Reverend Wright
The reason why it is so hard to rebuild the supply chain in the USa is that when the factories shut down and moved offshore, the companies that make tools for the factories also shut down.

OK fair enough. But when you say it is "hard" I look at as a golden opportunity to re-industrialize the USA and create a DOMESTIC economic boon. What is hard is becoming a two class 3rd world country.

Getting back to your main point, just because < insert industrial process here > isn't done in America right now doesn't mean it can't be done here.

If the idea of capitalism is a borderless world where every corporation looks for the absolute cheapest labor then there will be, over time, no 1st world nations. Just client states of China. ( Merchantilism ).

77 posted on 07/10/2024 1:57:26 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: cva66snipe
Sorry, I am not buying it. Say a 1200 psi steam pipe breaks in boiler room #1 from battle damage. The boiler is shut down and the ship keeps fighting. Why? Because boiler rooms #2,#3 and #4 are still working. I will stay and fight that ship.

OTH If a CVN takes damage and a RADIOACTIVE 1200 psi pipe breaks then the entire ship is irradiated and the reactor scrams. So you end up with $12B radiation hazard floating helplessly and worthless. Sorry I am not staying on a 95,000 ton bio/radiologic hazard. Someone else can save that ship.

78 posted on 07/10/2024 2:05:41 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: cgbg

Carriers are most definitely NOT slow moving. They are the fastest ships in the Navy. Their “stated” top speed is 30+ knots (equivalent to 35 mph).


79 posted on 07/10/2024 2:29:33 PM PDT by SpirituTuo ( )
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To: central_va

I agree with all that.

At some point the US dollar will crash and then domestic production will be the only game in town, as imports will be too expensive (it will be the same for Canada as well)

In my “retirement” I am studying mechanical engineering and materials. Maybe to start manufacturing something in the future.

Or maybe just mass repair of stuff that was designed as disposable and never intended to be repaired. But if replacements are too expensive, it will be like the Depression - either repair it or do without.


80 posted on 07/10/2024 2:40:11 PM PDT by Reverend Wright ( Everything touched by progressives, dies !)
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