Posted on 07/05/2024 9:42:48 AM PDT by ChicagoConservative27
The head of the Yemeni Ansarallah terrorist organization, Abdul-Malik al-Houthi, boasted in a national address on Thursday that his jihadists had turned American aircraft carriers into “obsolete weapons.”
Houthi’s group, which controls the Yemeni capital of Sana’a and received significant backing from state sponsor of terror Iran, declared war on Israel in October in support of fellow jihadist terrorists Hamas. The Houthis’, as they are commonly known, main contribution to terrorism in the Middle East has been a campaign against commercial shipping in the Red Sea in which they use drones, missiles, and other often rudimentary weapons to attack random civilian vessels in the region. The campaign has resulted in skyrocketing shipping fees and the collapse of toll revenue at the Suez Canal in Egypt as many companies choose to redirect ships around the Cape of Good Hope in Africa.
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Actually I’ve lately been wondering if sea power will be useful in the near future. We’re facing an age of asymmetric warfare using drones. Land would be more important than the ability to get near land via water - which is different than all of modern human history where dominance over the seas mattered. These ships would need to develop advanced anti-drone defenses.
Max out the Carriers’ magazines with Nukes.
Empty the magazines.
You can't ever win just swatting the flies. You've got to clean out their breeding grounds and crush all the maggots.
Actually when you review the modern technology now available featuring stealthy missles now available and pinpoint accurate targeting, guidance systems, not only are carriers obsolete but so are all naval surface combatants, land armored vehicles and helicopters over the battlefield. If this Houthi enemy of the American people were supplied and trained on these armaments, he would do his best to convert carriers and ships in the Red Sea into iron coffins.
The Navy has already been adapting the aircraft carriers’ weapons systems, which now include drones. I think continued adaptation of weapons systems is all that aircraft carriers need. As they are they still effectively bring a lot of fire power to long distant battle situations.
Depends on who you are fighting against. If your opponent lives in tents and rides camels, they will work just fine.
With a CIC like Trump not a CUC like Biden, the Houthis would get a simple “Nope” delivered with prejudice as the last thing they hear in this life.
When you have flies it is best to remove the sh!t they breed in.
With VTOL aircraft our larger carries are too big and put too many eggs in one basket.
I’m sure in some aspects this is true. Drones drones and more drones. They a quiet, cheap(comparatively)and effective.
One can have only a certain amount of fighter jets. First world countries can afford thousands and thousand of drones.
“Actually when you review the modern technology now available featuring stealthy missles now available and pinpoint accurate targeting, guidance systems, not only are carriers obsolete but so are all naval surface combatants, land armored vehicles and helicopters over the battlefield. If this Houthi enemy of the American people were supplied and trained on these armaments, he would do his best to convert carriers and ships in the Red Sea into iron coffins.”
Well, yes and no. It depends. Ships at sea are an entirely different thing. To hit them with anything you need to know where they are, the direction they’re traveling, and you have to saturate their defenses. You might say, well, satellites. Well no. It’s not happening right now but basically everyone who counts has anti-sat Lazers. They won’t destroy the satellite, which creates deadly flying debris, but they’ll blind them, melt the radars, etc. The oceans are big. Really, really big. The ships will never see each other in a fight. It’ll be done by remote control.
People have predicted the end of tanks since the bazooka. We still have tanks. One reason the Russian tanks have done so poorly is lack of training, maintenance and bad tactics. (Oh, and an almost absent deployment of men on foot at range to protect the tank.) Whether any system is useful depends on availability, training and tactics. The Russians have done poorly on all counts. US vehicles that have been captured or destroyed are mostly lost because they were designed to be used as one element of a combined arms operation involving a satellite and ground-based kill chain seamlessly integrated with land, and air assets. They are just one link in the chain and the other links are absent. Thus, the Ukrainians have only one piece of the kill chain puzzle. Therefore, they lose vehicles. The same goes with helicopters. We lost something like (from memory) five thousand of them in Vietnam. But everyone, and I mean everyone is still buying helicopters. Why? There’s a million uses for a box that flies. If you lose them either you thought that mission was worth a machine and crew, or you’re just being careless.
It’s the old sword and shield problem. Someone develops a steel sword. The other side develops a better shield. It’s an ongoing issue. The “win” in this war for the US and its allies is that we are getting to see how to fight new technology at someone else’s expense. I only hope the planners and theoreticians are taking notes.
Oh, back to ships. Yeah, they need to stay out of sight of land.
“With VTOL aircraft our larger carries are too big and put too many eggs in one basket.”
They are very capable of defending themselves. As I said. I think the Navy just needs to update weapons and operations for the kind of battle scenes that have changed with new technologies.
Yes, I think it’s past time we should put some kilo-tonnage on these jerks.
We have ten more $13 Billion dinosaur carrier targets approved. I used to say WWIII would be for aircraft carriers what WWII was for battleships. I was wrong. It just took the Houthis and Ukes in the Black Sea to demonstrate the fading relevance of capital ships.
The Houthis wouldn't last an hour if we still had the will to implement an Operation Praying Mantis.
Truth.
Seeing how subs can launch cruise misses,and ICBM’s for that matter, I’d say subs have a advantage over surface ships in times of war.
Surface ships are are relativity easy to track with lower tech systems, subs no so much.
Our kabillion dollar Navy cannot stop these third world terrorists from sinking commercial ships. That’s just a plain cold fact.
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