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Should Biden Quit? Democrats Weigh Potential Rewards and Steep Risks
The New York Times via Yahoo ^ | July 4, 2024 | by Adam Nagourney and Jim Rutenberg

Posted on 07/04/2024 5:00:13 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer

With President Joe Biden under pressure to drop his bid for a second term, his party has been thrust into uncharted territory, struggling with a long list of risks and rewards as it faces the prospect of replacing Biden less than two months before the party convention.

No presumptive nominee has withdrawn this late in the process. But no party has faced the challenge the Democrats face today: a nominee dogged by doubts about his mental acuity; his ability to beat his rival, former President Donald Trump; and his fitness to serve another four years as president.

All of this has left Democrats struggling with critical questions: Is it easier to defeat Trump with or without Biden at the top of the ticket? Is it riskier to go with a new candidate or stick with a president who appears headed for defeat?

Several Democrats said that no matter the risks, a new nominee could bring a host of benefits to the party, particularly if Biden anointed a successor in an effort to assure a smooth transition and minimize intraparty battling.

But other Democrats, including some advising Biden, said that changing horses now could lead to divisive and destructive feuding in the party. It could saddle the party with an untested candidate and a logistical nightmare that would only increase the prospects of a Trump victory this fall.

“A lot of things have to fall into place where it would take an act of God for it to go well,” said Stephanie Cutter, a Democratic consultant who also advises the Biden campaign but was not speaking on its behalf.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: biden; dementia; election2024
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1 posted on 07/04/2024 5:00:13 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Well aren’t they in a dither.

I see no positive way out for them. Thankfully. They deserve every defeat they endure.


2 posted on 07/04/2024 5:06:07 AM PDT by Persevero (You cannot comply your way out of tyranny. )
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

The democrats have created such an unstable world on purpose so changing administrations is unlikely, except for the fact Trump has the experience and relationships to have a smooth transition.


3 posted on 07/04/2024 5:08:23 AM PDT by cnsmom
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I don’t know. I DO KNOW one thing;

The Dems and assorted leftists are on the counter-attack big time.

Go to X and look at the posts. They are screaming about the dire threats of:
Trump wanting to be dictator
SCOTUS being radical right
Maga
Civil war
Etc

But especially they are crying about this so called sinister “agenda 2025” and how Maga will use it to create a fascist state.

Basically fear mongering as I haven’t seen since 2020.


4 posted on 07/04/2024 5:10:39 AM PDT by Phoenix8
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To: cnsmom
"a nominee dogged by doubts about his mental acuity"?

What?   More dog comms?

5 posted on 07/04/2024 5:11:13 AM PDT by rx
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
But no party has faced the challenge the Democrats face today: a nominee dogged by doubts about his mental acuity - because of his dementia; his ability to beat his rival, former President Donald Trump - because of his dementia; and his fitness to serve another four years as president - because of his dementia.

I think we're beginning to see a pattern here!

Regards,

6 posted on 07/04/2024 5:13:37 AM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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The fact that our national security NOW doesn’t factor into their calculations tells you all you need to know about democrats.


7 posted on 07/04/2024 5:14:31 AM PDT by mmichaels1970
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

biden is the only one who has beaten trump. the only one.

he has to do it again. or our democracy is doomed. this is not the time to put up also rans, this is for all the marbles... and mumbles...

trump 24


8 posted on 07/04/2024 5:17:38 AM PDT by teeman8r (Armageddon won't be pretty, but it's not like it's the end of the world or something )
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Notice the one glaring thing missing from the Times’ hand-wringing piece? They are not worried about the country, only about the party. In true communist fashion, the party is everything.


9 posted on 07/04/2024 5:19:16 AM PDT by Avalon Memories (Joe Biden puts illegal aliens first. I put America first! - Donald Trump, 5/23/24)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Let’s go Brandon. Do not cave to the pressure.


10 posted on 07/04/2024 5:23:57 AM PDT by Libloather (Why do climate change hoax deniers live in mansions on the beach?)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

It’s not a matter of ‘should’... It’s a matter of ‘how’ and ‘when’. Will they need to use the 25th Amendment section 4? Or will Joe go peacefully?

The only real question out there is...

Who will Kamala Harris select as her V.P.?

Newsome would make the most sense... They need to balance the ticket with a man. Picking another woman is out of the question.

In the end, the Democrats will pay a price for trying to hoodwink the nation into thinking that Joe Biden isn’t demented and the longer they wait to replace him, the worse it gets.


11 posted on 07/04/2024 5:26:00 AM PDT by jerod (Nazis were essentially Socialist in Hugo Boss uniforms... Get over it!)
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To: Persevero

I think one more fall, trip, faceplant will do it, dementia Joe was on full display for the whole world to see, that can’t be unseen


12 posted on 07/04/2024 5:27:18 AM PDT by baclava
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To: Phoenix8
how Maga will use it to create a fascist state"

All such talk is truly beyond the pale!

Eason is in prison. Bannon is in prison. Guiliani has lost his license to practice law in New York. Hundreds of thousands of conservative voices are kicked to the curb monthly by Administration-compliant social media puppets.

Doctors and pharmacists inclined to use COVID therapeutics--entirely legally--have lost their jobs and even credentials merely because they differed with the likes of Fauci. Our children have nearly suffocated from useless masks and been banished from learning in the classrooms, being foisted lesser, untried, coarse learning materials. The LEFT has taught those children how to fear under ad hoc authoritarian mandates.

Taxpayers have been saddled with needlessly paying off the merely vax hesitant who were shamefully thrown out of their jobs by leftist government minions.

Conservative attendees in DC--who never even set foot on Capitol on J6 have been viciously and unlawfully set upon by 6am raids from SWAT teams, robbed of their wealth (given to legal process and lawyers) and as they've been incarcerated, sometimes with more than 20-year sentences!

The left projects its own actions by saying that editorials not completely favorable to Biden create "undue influence" and "election interference."

All Christians--and even Jews--should understand that the LEFT is moving swiftly to eliminate them from the public sphere.

The LEFT encompasses all the authoritarian fascism that's been going on and it is the LEFT's Alinskyite projection to exercise its false projections onto people from the right.

13 posted on 07/04/2024 5:33:33 AM PDT by rx
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To: rx

Eason => John Eastman, then there’s Peter Navarro, too!


14 posted on 07/04/2024 5:39:03 AM PDT by rx
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Trump had better be beefing up his security and considering a VP who will make him assassination proof.


15 posted on 07/04/2024 5:43:50 AM PDT by Socon-Econ (adi)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
The entire world waited with bated breath for "The Debate".

The moment came and within 10 or 15 minutes, the whole world had SOLIDIFIED it's opinion about Joe Biden.

No amount of post debate spin and "reporting" can, nor will, change the mind of the world.

Every world leader is PERMANENTLY set in their opinion that Joe Biden is not in the same class and category as every other world leader and though he may be bolstered here in America by a sycophant media, Joe Biden is no longer relevant in world politics.

16 posted on 07/04/2024 5:55:48 AM PDT by knarf (BEC)
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To: baclava

Ok but

Then what

Kamala? She’s the only one who can use the war chest.

How to get on the ballot in the increasing number of states that are passing deadlines?

They are in a terrible pickle.


17 posted on 07/04/2024 6:00:12 AM PDT by Persevero (You cannot comply your way out of tyranny. )
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To: Persevero

They can’t very well replace Kammy with a white man, that would be a total race war, lolololol

Dey screwed, Go Dementia Joe!


18 posted on 07/04/2024 6:06:19 AM PDT by baclava
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Quit? Quit what??


19 posted on 07/04/2024 6:08:24 AM PDT by scottiemom (As a former Texas public school teacher, I plead with Godly parents to consider home school. )
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To: cnsmom

All I can think is that a whole bunch of stuff is going to happen in the next four months. Sure bet Biden is out and so is Kamala. Its an open time of great change. Maybe its what is needed. America needs a massive enema.


20 posted on 07/04/2024 6:43:52 AM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade (. War is Hell)
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