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This may end up the most damaging SCOTUS decision of the term. And it wasn't immunity.
MSNBC ^ | July 3, 2024 | Steve Vladeck

Posted on 07/03/2024 9:23:38 PM PDT by where's_the_Outrage?

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Steve, Steve, Steve. Aside from being a complete moron, the rubbish you publish isn’t even close to being right. It’s an opinion and frankly an opinion filled with inconsistencies and lies to satisfy a base of “useful idiots.”


41 posted on 07/04/2024 4:45:57 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Paging Dr. Bandy Lee. Dr. Lee please pick up the white courtesy phone.)
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It is finally sinking in to the mockingbirds the significance of overturning the Chevron deference. I'm sure they were too focused on the immunity ruling.

The Left took a hit below the waterline on that one, imho.

42 posted on 07/04/2024 5:13:53 AM PDT by Tench_Coxe (The woke were surprised by the reaction to the Bud Light fiasco. May there be many more surprises)
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“ And if the question is whether technical questions should be resolved by those with the relevant expertise who work for presidents for whom we have voted, …”

This premise is flawed. The president we vote for cannot fire the entrenched bureaucrats who make these decisions. Also, these politically appointed misfits, who couldn’t get a real job, may have very little relevant expertise but a very sharp axe to grind.

At least with congressional action these boneheaded decisions can be overturned.

EC


43 posted on 07/04/2024 6:09:26 AM PDT by Ex-Con777
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If someone sues you, the two of you get to stand before a judge and state your cases.

What we had until Chevron last week is if someone sues you, you two get to stand in front of the plaintiff’s family, state your cases, and they make the decision as to the merits of the case.

So, the Leftists can SHOVE IT. What happens now is that judge can hear both sides and experts from BOTH SIDES can be brought in, and considering that judges are pretty good at identifying BS, the outcomes will be far better.


44 posted on 07/04/2024 6:28:10 AM PDT by BobL
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I’m still trying to find where in that pesky constitution thingie that the fed was granted the right to regulate the environment.....


45 posted on 07/04/2024 7:06:26 AM PDT by joe fonebone (And the people said NO! The End)
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Who should resolve these matters? Unelected federal judges, who may have no particular expertise in environmental law, or the federal agency staffed with scientific and policy experts who do?.....

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Mr. Vladeck, the SCOTUS got one right. Yes the bureaucrats have a few “experts” and Yes in a REAL WORLD America would be better off with the “experts” making the decisions. But, over the decades, it’s got so bad that you have to be a democrat and a marxist liberal to even get hired and if you are a republican you will likely get fired OR you have to be a particular skin color or you have to be a particular gender or have a particular sexual proclivity.

So, like all liberals all the time you are lying or your just too stupid to understand what’s going on. Your “agencies” are so anti business and so anti gun and so anti property and anti individual rights that SCOTUS determined that even Ray Charles could see the problem.


46 posted on 07/04/2024 7:37:12 AM PDT by Cen-Tejas
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Consider the source of this clap trap. The author is incapable of looking at any other point of view. He does not even suspect that ANY absolute power corrupts absolutely and that there must be some way to check it.

These kinds of conflicts of opinion, vision, interpretation of facts remind me why I am happy to have stepped out of the workaday world. Trying to find consensus or compromise to move forward surely and successfully when people see things so differently without simply exercising command and control is maddening. So many times I prayed for the wisdom of Solomon in how to divide the baby. It can be so much better to be a dictator than a leader but there are problems with that too.

47 posted on 07/04/2024 8:18:31 AM PDT by Sequoyah101 (The Government that got us in this mess is not the Government that can get us out of it.)
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The author misses the point. Neither agencies or judges are tasked with making laws. The judge is there to decide whether the rules published and enforced by an agency is what the legislation requires. Before if there was doubt the agency’s take on the matter was deferred to. Now if the intention of the legislation is not clear the job of making it so is returned to the legislators. Who may well decide to amend the statute to reflect how it was interpreted by the agency.

But point being the judges are not deciding what a regulation should be.


48 posted on 07/04/2024 8:27:42 AM PDT by lastchance (Cognovit Dominus qui sunt eius.)
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The problem begins with the Left-Progressives writing of the laws, to have ambiguities to be left to executive dictates to resolve. The problem arises from that, which is the Left-Progressives disdain for true democracy - Congress legislating the details, because that is messy, and with no assurance they’d get the results they want. “Leave it to the “experts” - a long held progressive philosophy.


49 posted on 07/04/2024 8:58:24 AM PDT by Wuli
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