[larrytown]

As far as there being entire unelected, unaccountable power structures behind the ‘front man’ that is president, no disagreement whatsoever. That’s been the norm since John Adams.

Obama wasn’t a puppet - he was fully engaged with the leftist machine that selected him as their face, and an active ‘believer’ and agent for forwarding their agenda.

Biden is a small venal man, willing to do, sell or parrot anything to gain and remain in power. Always has been - I knew a prominent Wilmington businessman back in the ‘80s, and they treated him like a favor-vending machine. Make some donations, and his staff was your staff.

Worse than Obama, for at least Obama believed in something - Biden just doesn’t care.

[adorno]

Obama wasn’t a puppet - he was fully engaged with the leftist machine that selected him as their face, and an active ‘believer’ and agent for forwarding their agenda.

Obama was and is still a puppet.

He was recruited as a useful tool, and continues to be that.

He was never a good student, and was never engaged in his state's politics or government.

His qualifications amounted to no more than being black and young and perhaps charismatic. Perfect qualifications for becoming a puppet who would serve the communist agenda, and Soro's agenda, and his mentors' agenda.

Obama and his 'wife' were in it for the benefits that the senate and presidency offered, as witnessed by all the parties he hosted in the White house and all the world-wide traveling by Moochelle. She liked being the American 'queen', although the real 'queen' in that relationship was Obama.

Obama is still around so he can serve his masters, through the zombie known as Biden. All the puppeteers wanted from Obama and Biden, was the bodies they could put in front of the nation as 'presidents', but neither of them were or are in control of anything that happens in the federal government or in the democratic party. Obama and Biden never served more than half their terms doing anything, other than vacationing or partying. The damage to the country was during their terms, but that damage was done by the puppeteers, whose names will not be disclosed by democrats in control.