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Starliner undergoing thruster testing before indefinite return flight
UPI ^ | JUNE 29, 2024 | Mike Heuer & Allen Cone

Posted on 06/30/2024 12:29:18 PM PDT by george76

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1 posted on 06/30/2024 12:29:18 PM PDT by george76
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Test pilots Butch Wilmore and Suni Williams are safely aboard the ISS and are not stranded in space, NASA commercial crew program manager Steve Stich said ... But there is no targeted return date

In other words: They are not stranded in space, but they are stranded in space.

That's some Nancy-Pelosi-level reasoning there.

2 posted on 06/30/2024 12:31:31 PM PDT by Lazamataz (joesbucks is back. Let's remedy that! 😁)
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On the flight down their anuses will squeeze so tight that when they land they will pass diamonds.


3 posted on 06/30/2024 12:39:59 PM PDT by wildcard_redneck (He who sacrifices freedom for security deserves neither.)
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Once they're over the right spot, just jump out and go home like in Star Trek.


4 posted on 06/30/2024 12:41:02 PM PDT by mikey_hates_everything
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These days I think the updated saying “If it’s Boeing, I aint going!” makes a lot of sense.


5 posted on 06/30/2024 12:50:55 PM PDT by pepsi_junkie ("We want no Gestapo or Secret Police. F. B. I. is tending in that direction." - Harry S Truman)
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The thing is compromised and I would not set one foot in it ever. It will never make safe reentry.

I have had 15,000 to 20,000 high pressure systems that suffered injury and they were never reliable again. You had to hold your breath, your mouth just right and cross all your fingers and toes hope against hope that they would test. Hope is not a valid procedure against failure or reliable operation of a critical system in testing let alone in time of actual need.

Just another Boing flaming screw-up.

6 posted on 06/30/2024 12:51:36 PM PDT by Sequoyah101 (The Government that got us in this mess is not the Government that can get us out of it.)
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determine why the Starliner deselected needed thrusters .... love the wordsmithing here.....Deselected, as in DIDN’T WORK


7 posted on 06/30/2024 12:51:57 PM PDT by Robe (A nation can survive its fools and even n the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within.)
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While the California ‘bullet train’ is now looking at 25 years from approval to operation, it is worth noting that not all projects have to take that long. For example, after the 1993 Northridge Earthquake California Governor Pete Wilson called up the president of the largest highway contractor in California (C.C. Myers) and told him to drop everything and send all of the equipment and people he had (or might need) to the Santa Monica Freeway overcrossing of La Cienega Boulevard, where the entire Eastbound section had collapsed on to the road (along with another section). These were absolutely HUGE highway bridges, something like 7 lanes wide (including shoulders), and at least 100 feet long. He told Myers not to worry about being paid, that will be settled later. He also risked jail time by telling Myers that he could have more than the 1% white male limit and 20% LGBT minimum (no word the Flaming Feminist requirement, but likely that was waived too). He simply said to do whatever it takes. The freeway was reopened in 3 months. No one complained (probably since those sections of freeway were quite close to the main LGBT area of Southern California).

So can NASA do something right? It’s up to their bosses, at all levels, to the very top. If they continue to be primarily a ‘social services’ organization, not very likely, if they start thinking like it’s 1969, then, easily.


8 posted on 06/30/2024 12:58:02 PM PDT by BobL
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NASA and the globalist Ukraine warmongers in the U.S. government are hoping desperately that the Boeing Starleaker will work, because it would be damning to have to call the Russians to rescue the astronauts.


9 posted on 06/30/2024 1:11:03 PM PDT by T.B. Yoits
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Is Boeing paying NASA for the extended vacation at the ISS?


10 posted on 06/30/2024 1:16:30 PM PDT by tennmountainman ( (“Less propaganda would be appreciated.” JimRob 12-2-2023 DITTO)
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Somehow the Monty Python Parrot Sketch applies here.


11 posted on 06/30/2024 1:16:44 PM PDT by blackdog ((Z28.310) Be careful what you say. Your refrigerator may be listening & reporting you.)
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My lifetime real world industrial experience tells me this is the “Squeezing Jello Tighter to Fix It” solutions team work product.


12 posted on 06/30/2024 1:21:10 PM PDT by blackdog ((Z28.310) Be careful what you say. Your refrigerator may be listening & reporting you.)
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Hi, I'm Rep. Hank Johnson, here with my colleague Sheila Jackson Lee

Can't we just send up enough Happy Birthday/other helium balloons to help them?

Or what about one of those big Chinese thingy's?

13 posted on 06/30/2024 1:25:39 PM PDT by RckyRaCoCo (Time to throw them out of the Temple...again)
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When the thrusters are fired, they detect combustion by measuring pressure in the combustion chamber or nozzle. Within just a few milliseconds they expect to see pressure come up in the chamber.

If the pressure does not come up within a certain time-frame, they shut down the thruster. This is how some of the thrusters were “deselected”.

These thruster use hypergolic fuels, meaning they ignite on contact. For smooth operation, the valves need to open precisely at the right time so that one liquid does not accumulate before the other arrives. If you have valve issues or fuel supply issues, BOOM.

They had several pressure sensors fail, giving incorrect readings. The thruster would not fire, or remain firing for more than a few milliseconds. There are some concerns about over temperatures effecting the pressure sensors. They ought to be concerned.

It is my understanding that they can override the pressure sensor data. But that comes with more risks. What if the sensors are correct?

They are running ground tests right now to gain a better understanding of the effects of heat on the pressure sensors.


14 posted on 06/30/2024 1:29:16 PM PDT by Bryan24
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Lost In Space


15 posted on 06/30/2024 1:36:42 PM PDT by ABStrauss (I miss Rlush!)
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“not stranded in space”

We live in an age of insane lies.

Everybody does it.


16 posted on 06/30/2024 1:39:43 PM PDT by cgbg ("Our democracy" = Their Kleptocracy)
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How many more failures can Boeing endure before they collapse?


17 posted on 06/30/2024 1:41:10 PM PDT by antidemoncrat
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The computer “deselected” them. In other words, the software logic took them out of service. It’s a valid word usage.


18 posted on 06/30/2024 1:43:28 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (“When exposing a crime is treated like a crime, you are being ruled by criminals” – Edward Snowden)
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They could also get Elon Musk’s SpaceX to bring them back. NASA sponsored 2 programs to shuttle astronauts to the space station. Musk finished SpaceX on time. It has been used as a taxi to the space station about nine times already.

Interestingly, we are partners with Russia on the international space station.


19 posted on 06/30/2024 1:43:53 PM PDT by Freee-dame ( )
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They could also get Elon Musk’s SpaceX to bring them back. NASA sponsored 2 programs to shuttle astronauts to the space station. Musk finished SpaceX on time. It has been used as a taxi to the space station about nine times already.

Interestingly, we are partners with Russia on the international space station.


20 posted on 06/30/2024 1:43:53 PM PDT by Freee-dame ( )
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