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SCOTUS opinion day [Wednesday June 26, 2024]
Scotusblog ^ | 6/26/24 | Amy Howe

Posted on 06/26/2024 6:29:24 AM PDT by CFW

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To: CFW

“ Jackson in her dissent notes that the defendant in this case was convicted by a jury of violating the federal law after he steered more than $1 million in city contracts to a local truck dealership, which then gave him a check for $13,000 as a consulting fee. “Snyder’s absurd and atextual reading of the statute is one only today’s Court could love,” Jackson writes.”
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For once, I actually agree with this Leftist hack. The simple fact is that you don’t only consider a bribe money paid before a government official takes an action, it is just common sense to understand that there could be a conversation at a restaurant or on a golf course that is not recorded, which says “if you do X for me, I will pay you money later as a “consulting fee.”“ What this idiotic decision did was to simply wink at the latter method of bribing public officials, which I have to assume is already quite common, but which will now become the rule.

Now, on the other hand, apparently the issue decided upon in this case was whether there was federal jurisdiction, versus only state and/or local jurisdiction. I have honestly not familiar enough, with the facts of this case to be able to pass judgment on that issue. But, again, Jackson was correct in her assessment of post action payments possibly being just as much of a bribe as pre-action payments.


81 posted on 06/26/2024 8:14:26 AM PDT by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." - The Weapons Shops of Isher)
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To: CFW

If anything, this court is even less Jack Smith-friendly than the Rehnquist court.


82 posted on 06/26/2024 8:15:47 AM PDT by Sidebar Moderator
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To: CFW

Those read like quotes from Scalia ... nostalgia time.


83 posted on 06/26/2024 8:18:50 AM PDT by gloryblaze
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To: 9YearLurker

This case was decided on the issue of standing, not on the merits. While I don’t disagree with you that having Musk provide evidence of what happened with regard to Twitter censorship would be helpful the next time around, that isn’t why we got this result. We not only need better arguments, meaning specific proof of censorship that resulted directly from government communications to these companies, But more importantly, we need to find plaintiffs who were injured in some way by the censorship of these companies.


84 posted on 06/26/2024 8:20:39 AM PDT by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." - The Weapons Shops of Isher)
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To: Ancesthntr

But they are saying they don’t have standing because they haven’t demonstrated the causal relationship to the harm from the government communications.


86 posted on 06/26/2024 8:21:40 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: CFW

Re Barrett, I share your sentiments. What a wishy-washy disappointment she turned out to be.


87 posted on 06/26/2024 8:21:44 AM PDT by Sidebar Moderator
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To: CFW

Real question is:

“Why the hell are there “19 million state and local officials”


88 posted on 06/26/2024 8:28:39 AM PDT by PMAS (Vote with your wallets, there are 80 million of us - No China made, No Amazon)
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To: CFW

I pray that Alito stays healthy and energetic for many years.


89 posted on 06/26/2024 8:28:46 AM PDT by Freee-dame ( )
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court holds that the challengers — two states and five social-media users — do not have standing — that is, a legal right to sue.


So...gov’t colluding with social media companies - effecting elections - gets a pass?

:-(


90 posted on 06/26/2024 8:31:19 AM PDT by Jane Long (The role of the GOP: to write sharply-worded letters as America becomes a communist hell-hole.)
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To: 9YearLurker

My understanding of what the Court said is that the plaintiffs incorrectly asserted that all censorship by the social media companies was as a result of government prodding or orders. As I said earlier, it is ridiculous to assume that all of the censorship came about because of government pressure. These are leftist-controlled companies, and they are not stupid people (misguided or evil is another matter). They clearly understand that certain posts would harm their political cause, so they censored some of them completely on their own. Our side was stupid enough to argue that it all came from government pressure of one kind or another.


91 posted on 06/26/2024 8:32:13 AM PDT by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." - The Weapons Shops of Isher)
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To: Ancesthntr

https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/23pdf/23-411_3dq3.pdf


92 posted on 06/26/2024 8:33:23 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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From the ruling:

Held: Neither the individual nor the state plaintiffs have established Article III standing to seek an injunction against any defendant.

....because the plaintiffs request forward-looking relief, they must face “a real and immediate threat of repeated injury.” O’Shea v. Littleton, 414 U. S. 488, 496. Putting these requirements together, the plaintiffs must show a substantial risk that, in the near future, at least one platform will restrict the speech of at least one plaintiff in response to the actions of at least one Government defendant. Here, at the preliminary injunction stage, they must show that they are likely to succeed in carrying that burden. On the record in this case, that is a tall order.

...(1) The Court first considers whether the plaintiffs have demonstrated traceability for their past injuries. Because the plaintiffs are seeking only forward-looking relief, the past injuries are relevant only for their predictive value. The primary weakness in the record of past restrictions is the lack of specific causation findings with respect to any discrete instance of content moderation. And while the record reflects that the Government defendants played a role in at least some of the platforms’ moderation choices, the evidence indicates that the platforms had independent incentives to moderate content and often exercised their own judgment. The Fifth Circuit, by attributing every platform decision at least in part to the defendants, glossed over complexities in the evidence.

(3) To obtain forward-looking relief, the plaintiffs must establish a substantial risk of future injury that is traceable to the Government defendants and likely to be redressed by an injunction against them. The plaintiffs who have not pointed to any past restrictions likely traceable to the Government defendants (i.e., everyone other than Hines) are ill suited to the task of establishing their standing to seek forward-looking relief. But even Hines, with her superior showing on past harm, has not shown enough to demonstrate likely future harm at the hands of these defendants. On this record, it appears that the frequent, intense communications that took place in 2021 between the Government defendants and the platforms had considerably subsided by 2022, when Hines filed suit. Thus it is “no more than conjecture” to assume that Hines will be subject to Government-induced content moderation. Los Angeles v. Lyons, 461 U. S. 95, 108.

93 posted on 06/26/2024 8:35:24 AM PDT by CFW
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To: 9YearLurker

As an aside, it is my considered belief that the cure for social media companies censoring posts is to make them adhere to Rule 230. What this means is that if they filter out posts that are not related to advocating violence, that means they are exercising editorial control, and they are thus liable to be sued by individuals, groups or the government. On the other hand, if they don’t censor posts, other than ones dealing with advocating violence, then they are not exercising editorial control, they are just providing a new form of the Public Square, and they cannot be sued by anybody for the opinions expressed on their websites by others. The problem here is that our government, which promulgated Rule 230, has not been enforcing it. There is one way to make that change, and then involves getting the current corrupt leftist administration tossed out on its ass this November.


94 posted on 06/26/2024 8:40:26 AM PDT by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." - The Weapons Shops of Isher)
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To: CFW

You are right to doubts about her.


95 posted on 06/26/2024 8:44:37 AM PDT by PghBaldy (12/14/12 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15/12 - 1030am - Obama team scouts photo-op locations.)
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To: CFW

“...criminalizes gratuities, i.e., payments in recognition of actions ...”

What about bonuses paid out to bureaucrats each year????


96 posted on 06/26/2024 8:48:51 AM PDT by elpadre
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"We have the first opinion. It is Murthy v. Missouri, by Justice Barrett."

By this SCOTUS majority opinion the United States is now a kakistocratic dictatorship! The SCOTUS majority has ruled that states and individuals harmed by kakistocratic policies and actions suppressing First Amendment free speech no longer have "standing" to sue.

Expect future SCOTUS majority opinions to rule against any "standing" to sue the federal kakistocracy for their suppression of the remaining Bill of Rights.

97 posted on 06/26/2024 9:05:10 AM PDT by Carl Vehse
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Tracy Beanz has been following this case since the beginning. She says this ruling on Missouri v Biden is ONLY about no proof of standing for future harm, hence the overruled temporary injunction. Scotus didn't look at whether there was standing for past harm in suit as a whole, which continues in lower courts. So it's a setback, but not finality. Check out her video and pending posts for for further explanation.
98 posted on 06/26/2024 9:15:45 AM PDT by JohnBovenmyer (Biden/Harris events are called dodo ops)
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Looking back, it shouldn’t have been hard to predict how the justices would come down re Murphy v. Missouri, judging from oral arguments. They didn’t go well for our side.

Not the case with Fischer v. US, presidential immunity and the Chevron deference cases. From oral arguments, most of the justices seemed inclined to give us a clean sweep victory.

99 posted on 06/26/2024 9:23:39 AM PDT by Sidebar Moderator
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To: Ancesthntr

I’m okay with that, though it could well lead to them exercising the tight editorial control—and we know how that’d go.

They aren’t really separate from government anyway, insofar as they were governmental creations, however disguised, but that would be a tough one to fight.


100 posted on 06/26/2024 9:26:06 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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