[Grzegorz 246]

“...Ukraine it will only get more U.S. weapons if it enters peace talks. The United States would at the same time warn Moscow that any refusal to negotiate would result in increased U.S. support for Ukraine”

OK but the key issue here is what to do when:

- rus will say they want to keep the land they have conquered,
- Ukes will demand getting back to 1991 borders or at least to 2022 borders.

End of peace talks. What's then ?

[ConservativeMind]

Ukraine does not deserve the land back, if it could not ramp up any defense to Russia, since 2012.

Even Ukrainian men won’t fight for their country, so why should we?