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To: BobL
why else keep supporting a war that they know cannot be won by their side?

Assertion not supported by evidence. (If true, Russia would never have had to retreat from Kiev.)

It appears some give all credibility to Russians, and none to Ukrainians. It is a poor way (or vice versa) to assess a war.

36 posted on 06/23/2024 5:10:44 PM PDT by marktwain (The Republic is at risk. Resistance to the Democratic Party is Resistance to Tyranny. )
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To: marktwain

“Assertion not supported by evidence.”

So how do the Neocons win - nuking Moscow first? Nope, they still don’t win, because they have no way of stopping incoming ICBMs - so both sides lose.

Anything movement towards Neocon momentum in Ukraine will be stopped by nukes*, if not other options for Russia exists. At that point, it’s either capitulate for the Neocons, or it’s World War 3 (see above to find out how that ends).

*because that’s what the term “Existential Threat” means, and if Putin doesn’t push the button, others in Moscow will do it for him.

That sounds to me to be the definition of CHECKMATE - the Neocons lose either way, as Russia is not walking away from Ukraine without winning (see the term “Existential Threat”, above, for the reason). The only question now is whether Russia will win, or no one will win. That is a decision for the Neocons to make, and God help us if they get it wrong.


39 posted on 06/23/2024 5:18:13 PM PDT by BobL
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To: marktwain

This is what we have to put up with all the time.

“The war is over (said for the past 2 years) . Ukraine is obliterated. West cannot win. West wants WW3”

all a pile of stupid nonsense, the propaganda is obvious.

Had people screaming at me 2 years ago the details of what they guaranteed was going to happen within 30 days.

Sorry, but they are obnoxious.


42 posted on 06/23/2024 5:21:14 PM PDT by Williams (Stop Tolerating The Intolerant)
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