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Donald Trump calls for ending taxes on tips, drawing mixed reaction from Republicans
NBC News ^ | June 18, 2024 | Scott Wong and Sahil Kapur

Posted on 06/19/2024 6:38:01 AM PDT by Red Badger

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To: House Atreides

The employer files a form 8846 with their tax return, and receives a credit for FICA paid on any tips that when paid with other serving compensation exceed the minimum wage


101 posted on 06/19/2024 11:52:46 AM PDT by Fido969
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To: Owen
if they could get revenues to the post-war high of 20 percent, there would still be huge structural deficit but with 3 % growth, a 3 percent deficit allows for a stable debt ratio. That's the best they can do.

But getting growth to 3 percent, and restrained spending seems impossible. Every policy they do kills growth and increases spending.

I think in DC they have given up on fixing it, and are currently in a looting phase before the collapse.


102 posted on 06/19/2024 12:00:26 PM PDT by Reverend Wright ( Everything touched by progressives, dies !)
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That falls apart because growth is by definition G dependent.

If you reduce spending (G) you reduce growth. If you increase taxes you reduce (I) and that reduces growth.

There is no fix. Buy farmland and hope you get to keep it.


103 posted on 06/19/2024 12:26:34 PM PDT by Owen (.)
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Our family already owns a farm, and I am wondering how much to downsize TLT holdings.

For the Us budget, In the 1990’s, the revenue fraction went up, but spending was not cut.

If that happened again the USA “might” be able to get to a sustainable 3 percent deficit to GDP.


104 posted on 06/19/2024 12:42:18 PM PDT by Reverend Wright ( Everything touched by progressives, dies !)
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No, that doesn’t work that way. GDP is determined by

C(onsumption), + G(ovt Spending) + I(nvestment) + (exports - imports)

Oddly the Soc Sec payout gets categorized as C. If you cut govt spending and raise revenue (this reduces I), you don’t increase GDP growth, you shrink it.

Because it’s past the limits of mathematics. Nothing can be done.


105 posted on 06/19/2024 12:57:50 PM PDT by Owen (.)
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In the 1990’s, none of C or I or G went down.

REvenue fraction of GDP went up because of clinton’s tax increases as well as income growth in more highly taxed sectors.

If the USA can get back to late 1990’s revenue share of GDP, it just about looks sustainable.


106 posted on 06/19/2024 1:07:18 PM PDT by Reverend Wright ( Everything touched by progressives, dies !)
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To: C210N

What is a “PM-based financial system”?


107 posted on 06/19/2024 1:25:35 PM PDT by unlearner (I, Robot: I think I finally understand why Dr. Lanning created me... ;-)
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Precious-metals based (gold, silver, platinum, palladium).


108 posted on 06/19/2024 1:51:34 PM PDT by C210N (Mundus vult decipi, ergo decipiatur.)
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To: Reverend Wright

That is living in a world that doesn’t exist.

1990s numbers had easy North Sea oil flowing. Alaska is dying, too. And much of many places. Only difficult oil (difficult in joules in per joule out) flows now.

1990s numbers were pre dot com crash. Pre 9/11/2001. Pre 2008 Apocalypse and pre 2020 global plague. Each catastrophe was bailed out with interest generating debt. That world is gone and lost forever.

Dreadful sorrow, Clementine.


109 posted on 06/19/2024 2:46:30 PM PDT by Owen (.)
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I say that it is possible, not that it is likely.

Oil sand production in Venezuala and Alberta would be profitable at much less than $80 a barrel.

Current oil prices are a political construct, not a constraint of nature.


110 posted on 06/19/2024 3:01:09 PM PDT by Reverend Wright ( Everything touched by progressives, dies !)
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