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Why The Left Hates It When You Point Out We’re ‘A Republic, Not A Democracy’
The Federalist ^ | 06/17/24 | David Harsanyi

Posted on 06/17/2024 8:46:54 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: nickcarraway
A republic IS a form of democracy.

This!

Anyways, it's a moot point. We haven't been a republic since Lincoln.

21 posted on 06/17/2024 9:36:04 PM PDT by Drew68
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To: nickcarraway
Re: "Can you provide a citation for the quote?"

According to Comment #2, it is Woodrow Wilson, "Socialism and Democracy," 1887

22 posted on 06/17/2024 9:37:45 PM PDT by zeestephen (Trump "Lost" By 43,000 Votes - Spread Across Three States - GA, WI, AZ)
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To: Olog-hai
You’re the one who made the assertion about “republic” and “democracy” being identical.

I very much did not say they were identical! Do you speak English? Go back and read my post with native English speaker.

23 posted on 06/17/2024 9:39:14 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: Olog-hai

If I said a square is a type of rectangle, you would claim I said a square is identical to a rectangle?


24 posted on 06/17/2024 9:40:45 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

The C. S. Lewis quote in post #7 refers to the fact that the word “Democracy” has many meanings, thus making it a convenient word for demons to use to manipulate average people.

This is why the Left prefer to use the word “Democracy.”


25 posted on 06/17/2024 9:42:40 PM PDT by cockroach_magoo (No one is above the law, but some are more above the law than others.)
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To: SeekAndFind
The reason they hate the concept of a republic is a true republic of states as was in the constitution as written has many limits on the power of the central federal government. The Constitution as written is really a document limiting the power of the Federal Government and giving privileges to the Federal Government only those written in the Constitution. It also says all other rights belong to the individual states!

All Marxists, Fascists, Warlords, and Dictators want an all powerful central government that controls everything.

26 posted on 06/17/2024 9:44:31 PM PDT by cpdiii (cane cutter, deckhand, oilfield roughneck, drilling fluid tech, geologist, pilot, pharmacist ,MAGA)
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To: nickcarraway

To say “a republic is a form of democracy” is to say they are identical. It is not logically possible for democracy to have multiple forms; therefore, a republic is not a form of democracy.


27 posted on 06/17/2024 9:45:38 PM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: Olog-hai

What language do you speak? A square is a type of rectangle, but not all rectangles are squares.


28 posted on 06/17/2024 9:46:52 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

Red herring, particularly about your own statement.

No need to rack up any more logical fallacies.


29 posted on 06/17/2024 9:46:59 PM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: Olog-hai
It is not logically possible for democracy to have multiple forms

That is a patently ridiculous claim, with no backing. Do you want me to find ESL in your area?

30 posted on 06/17/2024 9:47:44 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: Drew68

No, not “this”.

I’ve noticed that leftists not only like to equate republics with democracies, but they are also down on Lincoln.


31 posted on 06/17/2024 9:48:36 PM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: Olog-hai
No need to rack up any more logical fallacies.

No, you have racked up enough for one night. Time to get back to the group home.

32 posted on 06/17/2024 9:48:38 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: Olog-hai
It is not logically possible for democracy to have multiple forms

There are innumerable types of democracy.

33 posted on 06/17/2024 9:50:19 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway
Argumentum and lapidem and ad hominem now. Guess you couldn’t resist.

Just to put your red herring back in the ocean, republics and democracies are not comparable to geometric shapes of any kind. And claiming that "a republic is a form of democracy" therefore is like saying "a republic is a form of socialist government".
34 posted on 06/17/2024 9:51:15 PM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: SeekAndFind
The reason they hate the concept of a republic is a true republic of states as was in the constitution as written has many limits on the power of the central federal government. The Constitution as written is really a document limiting the power of the Federal Government and giving privileges to the Federal Government only those written in the Constitution. It also says all other rights belong to the individual states!

All Marxists, Fascists, Warlords, and Dictators want an all powerful central government that controls everything.

35 posted on 06/17/2024 9:51:44 PM PDT by cpdiii (cane cutter, deckhand, oilfield roughneck, drilling fluid tech, geologist, pilot, pharmacist ,MAGA)
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To: nickcarraway

LOL! Then democracy cannot be defined. Proof by assertion again.

You have a nice evening.


36 posted on 06/17/2024 9:52:26 PM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: rlmorel

I’m not sure why an Oligarchy disguised as a Republic is any better than an Oligarchy disguised as a Democracy... but whatever.


37 posted on 06/17/2024 9:53:13 PM PDT by Reverend Wright ( Everything touched by progressives, dies !)
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To: Olog-hai

🔝🔝🔝


38 posted on 06/17/2024 9:58:51 PM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: nickcarraway

No, they are NOT synonymous. We are a Constitutional Republic with some democratic institutions.


39 posted on 06/17/2024 9:59:38 PM PDT by MileHi ((Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victims, and control freaks.)
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To: DLfromthedesert

That’s right.


40 posted on 06/17/2024 10:04:30 PM PDT by No name given (Anonymous is who you’ll know me as)
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